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phleshdef

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1. Yea well, victory for them, he gets to be their patsy.

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 01:08 PM

Aug 2013

I agree that Manning deserves prison time for what he did because he went beyond exposing illegal activities. But at the same time, I see him as an emotionally troubled individual that Wikileaks took advantage of. Assange and his ilk are scum, hiding behind the noble notions of transparency in order to make a name for themselves. And they don't care who they take advantage of to do it.

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WikiLeaks says Bradley Manning jail term is 'strategic victory' [View all] ProSense Aug 2013 OP

Yea well, victory for them, he gets to be their patsy. phleshdef Aug 2013 #1

Are you a patsy? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #3

Doing a good thing doesn't erase doing a bad thing. phleshdef Aug 2013 #5

Sure you would RobertEarl Aug 2013 #11

LOL, you don't see me doing anything. You don't know me. phleshdef Aug 2013 #14

I gotta say Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #13

That's been my position for a while now. riqster Aug 2013 #29

And you sound like leftynyc Aug 2013 #39

I agree Johonny Aug 2013 #7

OK, I missed it. What exactly "illegal" did Manning expose? Serious question because all links to kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #50

This pretty much sums up my view... one_voice Aug 2013 #61

Well, Julian should stay in his embassy cubicle until Manning feels the sun on his face again, IMO. MADem Aug 2013 #2

He sacrificed for you and all of us RobertEarl Aug 2013 #4

You have a lot of nerve lecturing anyone ProSense Aug 2013 #6

Praise tea baggers? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #9

No, you were praising teabaggers ProSense Aug 2013 #10

LOL, yea, that Bradley Manning, a modern day Jesus... phleshdef Aug 2013 #8

What are you smoking? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #12

I'm not "going after" anyone, but I spent 2003-2009 calling for Bush's impeachment. phleshdef Aug 2013 #16

you are getting a little better at this... snooper2 Aug 2013 #18

No he didn't. Nice speech, though. MADem Aug 2013 #28

Manning did, but Assange operates out of sheer ego. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #48

That's what a hero does leftynyc Aug 2013 #41

He was actually the... one_voice Aug 2013 #63

Concur--and he, of all of 'em, had the biggest personal issues. MADem Aug 2013 #64

Okay just lost all respect for Wiki Rex Aug 2013 #15

The reference is to the defense and Manning not to any kind of victory for Wikileaks. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #32

Thank you! Rex Aug 2013 #57

I know. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #59

You don't think there is a reason for it do you? Rex Aug 2013 #60

Nah, 'cause that would mean there's an agenda Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #62

Yep, more raining coming in too. Rex Aug 2013 #65

"It's not ABOUT Manning! It's about ME, Julian Assange!" struggle4progress Aug 2013 #17

What the hell are you talking about? Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #24

That's it, precisely. He's a little piglet for attention--it's noxiously obvious. MADem Aug 2013 #47

uh oh. bunnies Aug 2013 #19

Notice the posters here sliming Manning RobertEarl Aug 2013 #20

Most of the posters ProSense Aug 2013 #22

Who's sliming Manning? Jesus, you love to make shit up and insert unrelated crap into threads. MADem Aug 2013 #30

LOL! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #67

Full statement by Julian Assange Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #21

"This hard-won minimum term represents a significant tactical victory for Bradley Manning�s defense" ProSense Aug 2013 #23

It's all about Julian.....and 35 years is a long, hard sentence. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #25

Saved from releasing the "insurance" files. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #26

James Blond is okay with 35 years? One can only hope that comes back to bite msanthrope Aug 2013 #27

I hope he's in the Embassy for at least as long as Manning is in the pokey. MADem Aug 2013 #31

I'll take a Swedish prison sentence of comparable length. As Prosence pointed out, now msanthrope Aug 2013 #33

You can donate via the Wikileaks site here: Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #36

Can you show me how much Wikileaks money went to Manning Legal Defense Fund? msanthrope Aug 2013 #38

The Defense Fund is here (which Wikileaks links to) Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #44

Right--show me how much money Wikileaks gave to Manning's IOLTA Legal Defense Fund--the msanthrope Aug 2013 #45

The last I heard, the Wau Holland Foundation, allowed Wikileaks to donate $15,000. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #51

15 k from wikileaks, and Courage to Resist spent 75% of donations on 'expenses' not legal fees??? msanthrope Aug 2013 #53

You haven't a clue what they do. Yes. Advertising. Prior to Courage to Resists campaigns on Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #54

How does an organization collecting for his 'defense' spent 75% of the money on things that are not msanthrope Aug 2013 #55

Believe it or not, being able to support Manning's defense also includes raising awareness of his Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #58

It takes 75% of 1.2 million to do that? This sounds to me like a huge Ponzi scheme..... msanthrope Aug 2013 #66

No he's not fucking okay with 35 years. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #35

Why are you carping at me about what that idiot thinks? MADem Aug 2013 #42

Wikileaks is praising the work of the defense. The comment wasn't about Wikileaks... Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #34

Wikileaks is full of shit. Manning isn't getting out with minimum time because he msanthrope Aug 2013 #37

I trust Col. Morris Davis's (Gitmo chief prosecuter) Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #40

That's not minimum time, my dear Luminous. And I bet if you asked Col. Morris would Manning's msanthrope Aug 2013 #43

You claimed that he won't get parole. Col. Davis disagrees. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #46

He won't if the feds still want his testimony. Refusal to help the authorities is a strike msanthrope Aug 2013 #49

Awful demanding, ain't ya? Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #52

You should see me on behalf of my clients. Here, I have a TOS that binds me. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #56

Assange is a sleazy attention whore JI7 Aug 2013 #68