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rdharma

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25. Look at the ALEC's list of Private Enterprise Council Members

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 02:45 PM

Aug 2013

And tell me that the UPS "needs" the ACA! They are buddies of the Koch Bros and have the same agenda.

Private Enterprise Council Members

Mr. Jeff Bond
PhRMA

Ms. Sano Blocker
Energy Future Holdings

Mr. Robert Jones
Pfizer Inc.

Mr. Kenneth Lane
Diageo North America, Inc.

Mr. Billy Leahy
AT&T

Mr. Kelly Mader
Peabody Energy

Mr. Michael Morgan
Koch Companies Public Sector, LLC

Mr. Daniel Smith
Altria Client Services

Ms. Cynthia Bergman
Exxon Mobil Corporation

Mr. Roland Spies
State Farm Insurance Companies

Mr. Pat Thomas
United Parcel Service

Mr. Bob Williams
State Budget Solutions

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UPS dropping 15,000 spouses from health insurance. [View all] dkf Aug 2013 OP

What if the insurance is worse than UPS's? The Link Aug 2013 #1

Too bad. The spouse needs insurance or they pay the mandate penalty. dkf Aug 2013 #2

"Penalty". The Obama Administration argued before the Supreme Court that it was a tax AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #43

If the spouse's policy doesn't meet ACA coverage standards, the spouse will have the option pnwmom Aug 2013 #51

Well that's what the republicans called it--- Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #69

Happened to me. Xithras Aug 2013 #17

I know of a few cases also -- the spouse is kicked off if they have "coverage" anneboleyn Aug 2013 #47

Some more misinformation about the ACA to try to dismantle it. kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #3

In this case the corporation needs the ACA... Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #6

Look at the ALEC's list of Private Enterprise Council Members rdharma Aug 2013 #25

And this type of information and stacked deck is a suprise now. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #33

I'm surprised they have the cohones to blame their dropping coverage on the ACA rdharma Aug 2013 #44

Interesting Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #40

ALEC's member list is a "Who's Who" of Republican scumbaggery rdharma Aug 2013 #48

Yes, this group came into existence about four hours ago. No ACA imput at all. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #58

LIES! Lies I tell you! It's all a lie and propaganda. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #18

Corporations love the idea of single payer. The object is to get healthcare off their books. NOVA_Dem Aug 2013 #21

That's a novel idea. Quantess Aug 2013 #67

Walmart and Fast Food companies already use the gov't to subsidize their salaries and healthcare.. NOVA_Dem Aug 2013 #68

I meant "corporations love the idea of single payer" was a novel idea. Quantess Aug 2013 #73

Of course healthcare companies would hate it but all the other companies would love it. NOVA_Dem Aug 2013 #74

Definitely. (no text) Quantess Aug 2013 #75

You got that right! rdharma Aug 2013 #30

Only applies to non-union employees. House of Roberts Aug 2013 #4

If the employee now has to buy outside coverage do they get a raise to pay for it? DJ13 Aug 2013 #5

LOL....of course not that would undo the added profits for snappyturtle Aug 2013 #7

That's if the wife has coverage. But I guess if not employer covered she can go to the exchanges. dkf Aug 2013 #8

That's not even a fair read of what UPS is saying jberryhill Aug 2013 #29

They will not be on UPS rolls 2014. Correct? Safetykitten Aug 2013 #34

There is a strong case for that... WCGreen Aug 2013 #23

Key phrase - "eligible for other insurance" jberryhill Aug 2013 #28

Oh, and that's a 60 million dollar saving. Got it. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #35

It's just shifting that cost onto the spouse's employer jberryhill Aug 2013 #36

And then they "other".... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #56

Ingles, por favor jberryhill Aug 2013 #60

Yes, if they are a stockholder in a health insurance company that will pay dividends. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #46

If money was deducted from a paycheck for medical coverage they should have to WCGreen Aug 2013 #76

UPS is a price gouger in just about every way. not surprised to hear this nt msongs Aug 2013 #9

The non-union employees this applies to should join their union. Robb Aug 2013 #10

They can't. They are considered management even if they to are part time or anything else. TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #16

Sometimes I like fantasy scenarios also. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #37

Good malaise Aug 2013 #11

The corp is lying. This has nothing to do with the ACA. Companies have always been pnwmom Aug 2013 #12

Anything bad that happens to UPS management puts a smile on my face. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #13

Many "management" positions pay well below "non-management" jobs joeglow3 Aug 2013 #19

I'm quite familiar with how things work at UPS. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #26

Bull shit joeglow3 Aug 2013 #42

When did I ever say anything about how much somebody makes? "Bull shit". Get lost, creep. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #45

So you take joy in a pennyless person losing benefits joeglow3 Aug 2013 #49

I take joy in the misfortune of people that hate Unions and work against them every day. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #52

EVERY SINGLE PERSON there harassed and/or tried to fire Teamsters? joeglow3 Aug 2013 #62

Well if they didn't do that then I was obviously not referring to them. I was specific in my Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #63

You said "Anything bad that happens to UPS management puts a smile on my face." joeglow3 Aug 2013 #64

Even after you barged in hollering "Bull shit" and throwing around your lofty credentials, Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #65

Or, as a nation and customers, lets demand it of all companies joeglow3 Aug 2013 #66

Tell that to management, not me. I've been for single payer for years. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #72

You can put me on ignore joeglow3 Aug 2013 #81

When did I mention workers at other companies? Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #82

wait what? They require employers to cover employees and children but not spouses? Why did they liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #14

First they came for the pensions, then they exported jobs, now they are coming for your benefits. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #15

... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #20

most likely they are cutting costs to make sure they don't have a "cadillac" plan FarCenter Aug 2013 #22

Cadillac plan? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #31

"Cadillac" plans are plans exceeding cost limits above which employers pay a penalty FarCenter Aug 2013 #50

Newsmax? Really? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #53

Do you even understand the basics of the ACA? Safetykitten Aug 2013 #55

Well yes Kitten I do HangOnKids Aug 2013 #57

If you don't like that source, use Google yourself... FarCenter Aug 2013 #59

I did use Goggle I was asking why you used that source HangOnKids Aug 2013 #61

I think a few are misunderstanding this - spouses won't be covered only if eligible elsewhere groundloop Aug 2013 #24

But is anyone not covered if they can go to the exchanges? dkf Aug 2013 #27

Anyone can buy health insurance without the exchanges jberryhill Aug 2013 #32

Exactly.. Few people are old enough to recall that once upon a time SoCalDem Aug 2013 #41

They spend billions to track their employees with telematics but justify this by claiming Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #38

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #39

No Way! Safetykitten Aug 2013 #54

Treating their employees like their parcels; at least they're consistent. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #70

My former employer did this three years ago mcar Aug 2013 #71

My wife's employer tried to pull that crap on me earlier this year Generic Brad Aug 2013 #77

Contract time Shibainu Aug 2013 #78

They can now pay the tax for the priviledge of dying Riftaxe Aug 2013 #79

So what's your plan? Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #80