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66. And furthermore, that bill

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 07:35 PM

Aug 2013

included an increase in July 2009.

So in the face of massive job losses every month, there probably wasn't much will to vote on an additional increase in the minimum wage.

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Still Think Theres NO Difference Between Republicans & Democrats? [View all] Segami Aug 2013 OP

Thank God they haven't given up ground on that yet! Hydra Aug 2013 #1

Ding Ding Ding iandhr Aug 2013 #2

The question is, East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #3

The same reason the Republicans didn't stop spending when they had the same LearningCurve Aug 2013 #6

I am starting to think that is how it works. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #39

They did in 2009. The House passed it, the Senate GOP filibustered it Recursion Aug 2013 #9

Thank you for your good memory of actual events. Much appreciated. nt Hekate Aug 2013 #13

This does not match my memory at all LearningCurve Aug 2013 #41

The BOG likes to make up their own reality and then high five each other. DesMoinesDem Aug 2013 #83

Not familiar with the BOG LearningCurve Aug 2013 #93

You got it on your first try. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #101

Sometimes I get lucky. LearningCurve Aug 2013 #105

You may want to apologize leftynyc Aug 2013 #96

This is an article about the MAINE state House LearningCurve Aug 2013 #109

How hard did you try? leftynyc Aug 2013 #95

I tried harder than this LearningCurve Aug 2013 #107

too bad you don't know how to do the most fucking basic research cali Aug 2013 #98

I think my credibility is still intact LearningCurve Aug 2013 #108

Thank you for accurately rebutting a common RW talking point! eom Tanuki Aug 2013 #27

Democrats failed to pass minimum wage is a Republican talking point? LearningCurve Aug 2013 #42

Clearly you have a steep learning curve ahead. nt Hekate Aug 2013 #58

I can find nothing about this anywhere LearningCurve Aug 2013 #40

they heaven05 Aug 2013 #103

No "they" did not LearningCurve Aug 2013 #106

That never happened. Prove me wrong. DesMoinesDem Aug 2013 #61

I think you mean 2007. See this history.... sinkingfeeling Aug 2013 #99

The Rethugs filibustered in the Senate, as you know. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #21

2009 the Democrats had a super-majority LearningCurve Aug 2013 #43

No, we didn't. Not for 10 seconds. pnwmom Aug 2013 #45

If not for 60 votes, ACA would never have passed LearningCurve Aug 2013 #47

And getting the ACA through at all was a miracle. pnwmom Aug 2013 #49

I don't disagree with a single sentence you wrote here except LearningCurve Aug 2013 #50

It doesn't work that way. pnwmom Aug 2013 #54

The same process for any bill also applied to ACA LearningCurve Aug 2013 #55

Only a few bills can end up at the top of the pile. They can't all have the same priority. pnwmom Aug 2013 #56

You'll never hear disagreement from me about Republican obstruction LearningCurve Aug 2013 #57

The time period you're talking about was when hundreds of thousands of jobs were being shed pnwmom Aug 2013 #63

I wonder Hekate Aug 2013 #80

A reasonable position LearningCurve Aug 2013 #110

I don't remember the repubs being coy about their plans annabanana Aug 2013 #94

Mcconnell heaven05 Aug 2013 #104

I don't believe anyone is disputing Republican obstructionism LearningCurve Aug 2013 #111

OTOH it passed both chambers in 2007, and W signed it Recursion Aug 2013 #64

And furthermore, that bill pnwmom Aug 2013 #66

Prove it. DesMoinesDem Aug 2013 #65

It's all moot anyway. There was already an increase scheduled for July 2009. pnwmom Aug 2013 #67

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #69

Well I should have known something East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #79

Why do you need to be so ugly? Pnwmom is not known for lying, but for factual statements. Hekate Aug 2013 #81

There is nothing ugly about calling someone out for lying. DesMoinesDem Aug 2013 #82

Hold a mirror up to your own face Hekate Aug 2013 #84

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #85

Not at all, but I see your original trollery was hidden by a jury Hekate Aug 2013 #88

Glad you feel that way leftynyc Aug 2013 #97

The question is, tabasco Aug 2013 #33

Isn't that what I'm doing by posting to a political discussion forum? East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #60

Not really. In this particular thread what you and several others are doing can only be described Hekate Aug 2013 #86

Sure, that's my only motive. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #90

You're not waiting for an answer, are you? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #77

Well no... East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #78

Whoa Hooooooooo! Iliyah Aug 2013 #4

Of course there's a difference between 1awake Aug 2013 #5

History of the federal minimum wage in real and nominal dollars. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #7

...and now you know the REAL reason right-wingers hate the 1960's. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2013 #24

Witness. This is why one age group remembers getting by on MW "just fine." nt Robb Aug 2013 #30

I'd always wondered about that, this definitely explains it. Butterbean Aug 2013 #34

Shit was a lot cheaper then. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #70

I remember my parents paying cash, 5k, for a brand new Pacer when I was a kid. Butterbean Aug 2013 #72

My parents bought a new 71 Buick sedan for $2400. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #74

Who has the energy to create a list of differences and similarities? mick063 Aug 2013 #8

+1 deutsey Aug 2013 #29

exactly right: we get a few more crumbs with democrats noiretextatique Aug 2013 #31

President Gore would NOT have invaded Iraq or crashed the economy uhnope Aug 2013 #36

Absolutely right Gore would not have invaded Iraq. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #59

Don't blame Nader. Gore won. Blame SCOTUS that installed Bush by fiat uhnope Aug 2013 #62

Not blaming or not blaming Nader. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #71

You think the minimum wage is a crumb? tabasco Aug 2013 #38

Yes mick063 Aug 2013 #87

There's no difference between Republicans and 3% of Democrats, I guess. Kablooie Aug 2013 #10

differences there just to get us to vote for the similarities? MisterP Aug 2013 #11

Excellent. K&R Whisp Aug 2013 #12

between R and D PatrynXX Aug 2013 #14

Proof that NOT ONE single republican values American workers. loudsue Aug 2013 #15

Repukeblicans Mr_Patriot Aug 2013 #16

But but raising the minimum wage would hurt the job creators! kimbutgar Aug 2013 #17

K&R libodem Aug 2013 #18

A valid point. rec. cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #19

If it had been in danger of passing Bonobo Aug 2013 #20

No there is a huge difference. Rex Aug 2013 #22

I never thought there was no difference. LWolf Aug 2013 #23

Fuckin' A. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #25

Yup. There is a distinct difference. MineralMan Aug 2013 #26

a real democrat would vote for a living wage such as $15 or $18/hour and a real democrat also would liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #28

I always thought that regarding minimum wage, Democrats are much better David Krout Aug 2013 #32

People who think there's no difference and sabotage the Dems are borderline nuts. uhnope Aug 2013 #35

Of course there is a difference but the Democratic Party does need a lot of work. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #37

Did they try this before? Bradical79 Aug 2013 #44

That is the $64 question. MrSlayer Aug 2013 #48

On some things, sure there's a difference . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #46

This graph needs to be shown to every working person gopiscrap Aug 2013 #51

some here think bu$h was better than Obama.... spanone Aug 2013 #52

Congress has no intention of raising it or doing anything about the economy. n/t duffyduff Aug 2013 #53

Many on left dont give a shit about this.. DCBob Aug 2013 #68

And then there are those of us who care about both issues. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #73

Sure, but which is more important? DCBob Aug 2013 #75

Nothing can be more important than our 4th Amendment rights. And it's not just about Obama. Our totodeinhere Aug 2013 #89

Surely you see the legitimate conflicting issues of personal rights and national security. DCBob Aug 2013 #112

Politics is just theater for ugly people. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #76

Yep! That's why I'm here. napoleon_in_rags Aug 2013 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author BillyRibs Aug 2013 #92

For the most part, since you asked, there is very little difference. Myrina Aug 2013 #100

oh there is definitely a difference - that's obvious - on the big picture and major issues of Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #102