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In reply to the discussion: Dr. Phil treats date rape as a legitimate debate [View all]Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)To answer your question: NO, that is not okay with me. If someone cannot talk they cannot give consent. That would be rape.
However, you might be unaware that there exist infinite stages of intoxication that lie between "Had a beer, feeling fine" and "I did what?" At some subjective point along that path, sex transitions from consensual to non-consensual, and I would argue that this is so regardless of what the intoxicated party might be saying at the time. But at what point, and how is a potentially intoxicated partner to know that some subtle line has been crossed. More, if both partners have crossed this threshold which is the rapist and which the victim?
As I said in my original post on this subject, I see nothing wrong with the guy posing the question, and so far no one has offered even a wisp of an argument against my position. Instead, I have been offered rather flimsy strawmen.