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Demo_Chris

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56. Having consentual relations with someone who is intoxicated is not automatically against the law...

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 06:16 AM

Aug 2013

It is only against the law if jury decides that the victim was so intoxicated that consent was impossible. Someone who has had a couple drinks might well be legally intoxicated, but they are certainly capable of deciding for themselves whether or not they are interested in having sex. If you are suggesting that they a not, congratulations, you just criminalized most of the premarital sex in this country.

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Dr. Phil treats date rape as a legitimate debate [View all] alp227 Aug 2013 OP

He's disgusting I can't stand him. n/t one_voice Aug 2013 #1

I think I am missing something... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #2

Why does he want to hear from people who think it's okay? leftstreet Aug 2013 #4

If I am reading it correctly he wanted to hear from BOTH sides... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #8

He should just tweet: 'Sex with a drunk person is not OK' leftstreet Aug 2013 #10

THIS is why academics have tenure. joeglow3 Aug 2013 #14

I'm sure whatever you and your wife do with each other is fine. No one else's business anyhow. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #22

Do you KNOW that? joeglow3 Aug 2013 #24

I'm basing my assumptions on common sense, mostly. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #36

So it's okay with you if your sister can't speak or walk or see straight, and some bettyellen Aug 2013 #12

What if it is my wife? joeglow3 Aug 2013 #15

you are the one doing the assuming- but Demo Chris only mentioned lack of consciousness- bettyellen Aug 2013 #29

CREEPY Skittles Aug 2013 #55

To you. And I bet you think that is all that matters. joeglow3 Aug 2013 #57

LOLOL Skittles Aug 2013 #60

My wife thought so last night joeglow3 Aug 2013 #61

OMG Skittles Aug 2013 #62

Bye joeglow3 Aug 2013 #63

That's an imaginative narrative from a simple post... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #17

Not really Chris- it's a scenario that occurs quite frequently on college campuses, so I guess bettyellen Aug 2013 #30

I was responding to your accusation, perhaps you should reread your post. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #31

Well, the only standard you cited as wrong was unconsciousness, so I ASKED you if other - bettyellen Aug 2013 #35

Yet again you are making statements about what I know or think... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #39

... you said it took "imagination" to describe a very common rape scenario- so I said it appeared bettyellen Aug 2013 #41

Poorly written on my part, I meant it took imagination to assume I was okay with what you described. Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #43

and I only asked a question- but you said I made an accusation. The article linked in the OP made bettyellen Aug 2013 #45

I addressed them all elsewhere in this thread... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #46

Whether they agree is irrelevant. It is rape and against the law. BainsBane Aug 2013 #47

Having consentual relations with someone who is intoxicated is not automatically against the law... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #56

Oh, I dunno... pipi_k Aug 2013 #13

I hate that bag of fucking shit. Whisp Aug 2013 #3

Hell must be freezing over. I couldn't have said it better myself. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #48

Didn't Oprah foist this asshole onto the unwashed masses? WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #5

another gift from Oprah to the world of the gullible nt msongs Aug 2013 #6

"If a Guy is passed-out drunk, is it ok to have sex with him ?? BlueJazz Aug 2013 #7

No. That's not the question he asked. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #9

I asked it because it wouldn't surprise me if Mr Phil spouted some dumb shit like that.. BlueJazz Aug 2013 #11

No. jmowreader Aug 2013 #50

or a man can rape the drunk man passed out. it happens. nt seabeyond Aug 2013 #52

That's a different issue jmowreader Aug 2013 #58

No it is not a different issue. You responded to.... If a man is passed out, seabeyond Aug 2013 #59

Really? You need someone to describe it for you? IronLionZion Aug 2013 #66

The question is not specific enough madville Aug 2013 #16

That might be why he asked it the way he did. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #18

If you and your partners Stargazer09 Aug 2013 #34

I don't see what's wrong with the question taught_me_patience Aug 2013 #19

So far no one has actually answered this. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #28

The article clearly explains what is wrong with the question Stargazer09 Aug 2013 #32

Not even close... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #37

You read the blog post explaining what was wrong? Stargazer09 Aug 2013 #38

Yeah, it's pretty weak... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #42

1. The tweet perpetuates the idea that rape is blurry. greyl Aug 2013 #40

I briefly saw this on CNN at work rapmanej Aug 2013 #53

Wasn't he like a telephone repair guy that bought a degree? Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #20

Dr. Phil should rename himself Dr. Duck meow2u3 Aug 2013 #21

At best it was the wrong question, phrased badly at that. At worst this is outright rape apology. nt nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #23

I caught part of one of his shows today. noamnety Aug 2013 #25

How horrible!!!! Tumbulu Aug 2013 #27

Ugh Stargazer09 Aug 2013 #33

I saw him a few times years ago on Oprah Winfrey's old show. Could not and cannot MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #49

He's a republican pos. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #26

Dr phil is a clown has always been a clown Egnever Aug 2013 #44

Sometimes I read a thread on DU, nad have to check my browsers address bar Scootaloo Aug 2013 #51

If I was drunk, and had sex with a sober woman who wasn't my wife, ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #54

Exactly how did "Dr." Phil lose his license? Had something to do with sexual improprieties. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #64

The short answer to this question? No!!!!!! Initech Aug 2013 #65