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180. The Manning/Snowden effect
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:14 AM
Aug 2013

Reading important reasoning about the effect Manning and Snowden added to this new age, or some are saying opened America up to the real America that needs repair.

This is the most serious part of the infrastructure that America has failed at. The morality, the disgrace, the reputation and especially the political behavior in what actions we endure and witness. America finds out we have secret courts, secret legislation, secret prosecution, secret agencies secret judges, that are government elected or appointed that collect data that ultimately is used to profiteer to make money off the American public.

A Republic, a Democracy in secret ?Does not sound normal. That is tyranny.

Our tax money is used against us as the majority figure this out Americans realize we did not have the freedom or liberty by the people as called out in the Constitution. We even argue with venom, prejudice, and hate to keep our selves healthy Americans are in a political dishonorable warp drive that stalls the very healthcare industry we need. Daily political people freely work to demonize the way to be healthy, torturing with lies daily via the mainstream media. Besides the lies about war to use the government system to profiteer murder gerrymander power.

All these action by elected officials appear to be traditional law not the real system law. Imagine interpreting law in secret all very frightening propelling cynicism especially distrust. The results are a citizen ship broken along with the government that is broken. So some brave Americans take a chance to dump the reasons, secret stuff to the public then we the people get to see if those secret choices are a benefit for the one percent or for everyone.

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Yes, an immediate pardon. Autumn Aug 2013 #1
Checking in. forestpath Aug 2013 #2
Damn straight. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #3
checking in. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #4
K&R And, they could use the empty cell for real criminals. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #5
Like Bush and Cheney, et. al. - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #11
Count me in! n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #6
I'm in but I am afraid there won't be a pardon gopiscrap Aug 2013 #7
There won't be a pardon for Manning even then. RC Aug 2013 #94
Why do you say that? gopiscrap Aug 2013 #96
Which? RC Aug 2013 #98
That you feel Obama won't pardon him? gopiscrap Aug 2013 #100
What has Obama done so far to rein in the war crimes? RC Aug 2013 #107
Bingo! n/t SylviaD Aug 2013 #109
Yes sinkingfeeling Aug 2013 #8
Checking in Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2013 #9
Hear, hear! - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #10
I'm in favor of his pardon or commutation. I don't think it will happen anytime soon, though. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #12
Commutation zipplewrath Aug 2013 #189
Agree. Mc Mike Aug 2013 #13
I see a big difference between Snowden and Manning markiv Aug 2013 #14
Pentagon papers? NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #72
but even the pentagon papers was a focussed internal study markiv Aug 2013 #149
Kinda necessary zipplewrath Aug 2013 #190
doesn't matter markiv Aug 2013 #192
Here! FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #15
I'm checking in asking Hydra Aug 2013 #16
. lastlib Aug 2013 #17
Check, Check, Check... I do support a pardon. n/t AnotherDreamWeaver Aug 2013 #18
Yes! fasttense Aug 2013 #19
Not a pardon, they can do what this DOJ did for Republican Alascan Senator Ted Stevens, sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #20
You're technically correct about the implications of a pardon. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #29
Yes, I know and I applaud any effort to get him home. I would just like to see justice done sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #35
Absolutely! ljm2002 Aug 2013 #21
Checking in. k&r n/t Laelth Aug 2013 #22
If you check in, then sign the petition. DreamGypsy Aug 2013 #23
Thanks for the link to the petition. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #31
I started another thread on the same topic just before you did. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #24
DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #25
Yes BuelahWitch Aug 2013 #26
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #27
Checking in! K&R nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #28
well, duh: the only argument against is a road map between Moscow's two airports MisterP Aug 2013 #30
Totally support it, but it's not going to happen. nt DLevine Aug 2013 #32
Obama should either pardon him or admit he wants Nixon type plumbers.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #33
indeed ut oh Aug 2013 #34
Kicking! Fuddnik Aug 2013 #36
Was just thinking that same thing this morning. TinkerTot55 Aug 2013 #37
Check and Balance neohippie Aug 2013 #38
While the real criminals are giving themselves a pat on the back Laughing Mirror Aug 2013 #39
check ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #40
Yes! Blue State Bandit Aug 2013 #41
K&R MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #42
K&R. n/t countmyvote4real Aug 2013 #43
K&R. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #44
Grntuscarora checking in. grntuscarora Aug 2013 #45
!!! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #46
Checking in. historylovr Aug 2013 #47
+1 Daniel537 Aug 2013 #48
Yes! tosh Aug 2013 #49
Checking in. christx30 Aug 2013 #50
K&R Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #51
As long as George Bush and his henchmen walk free, Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #52
Well said. I'm sick to the core about this. Mira Aug 2013 #73
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 benld74 Aug 2013 #53
So blatantly unfair KaryninMiami Aug 2013 #54
Kick. JoeyT Aug 2013 #55
K/R Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #56
Yes, a pardon. caseymoz Aug 2013 #57
Kick. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #58
Bradley Manning is an American Patriot Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #59
checking in. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #60
So "checked" nt Ninga Aug 2013 #61
A man is walking down the street... krispos42 Aug 2013 #62
Count me in. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #63
I Support That, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2013 #64
Manning kardonb Aug 2013 #65
Well, you're clearly on the wrong board. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #69
Maybe not a complete pardon. RoccoR5955 Aug 2013 #66
Absolutely colsohlibgal Aug 2013 #67
Kick and rec burnodo Aug 2013 #68
yes, I agree NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #70
until Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, & company are prosecuted, it's hard to justify ANY prosecutions yurbud Aug 2013 #71
this. navarth Aug 2013 #105
This man should be honored for his bravery. faithnomore Aug 2013 #74
Agreed. K & R Myrina Aug 2013 #75
Manning should be pardoned samsingh Aug 2013 #76
. DinahMoeHum Aug 2013 #77
Pardon! morningfog Aug 2013 #78
yes mike_c Aug 2013 #79
It won't happen, but I support it. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #80
Peltier first PatrynXX Aug 2013 #81
I'd be fine with both of them being pardoned on the same day. n/t. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #134
Yes DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #82
Here. I generally NEVER click on "Check In Here" threads, bvar22 Aug 2013 #83
Yall ever feel like you are in a isolation Chamber Cryptoad Aug 2013 #84
Uh, no...you have no basis for saying that...and you don't speak for "Most Democrats" Ken Burch Aug 2013 #121
We need some leaders with integrity and a sense of justice. Mr. President, what about you? Maineman Aug 2013 #85
K&R Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2013 #86
K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #87
affirm. the_sly_pig Aug 2013 #88
Checking in. Pardon Bradley Manning! rainy Aug 2013 #89
Yep libodem Aug 2013 #90
YES (esp since the unindicted terrorist Kissinger is still running free) Agony Aug 2013 #91
checked and recced redgreenandblue Aug 2013 #92
K&R! I'm all for it. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #93
Agreed Mickju Aug 2013 #95
No pardon is another strike against Democrats. 99Forever Aug 2013 #97
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #99
Check! Mokito Aug 2013 #101
I'm in! n/t Lugnut Aug 2013 #102
Hear, hear! 1monster Aug 2013 #103
he should be free due to torture he endured tardybar Aug 2013 #104
And an immediate honoring of him with the Nobel Peace Prize cascadiance Aug 2013 #106
Manning's sentence is an outrage Gator_Matt Aug 2013 #108
Pardon him . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #110
I am in Tears Rockyj Aug 2013 #111
Bradley Manning pleads guilty to misusing classified data in WikiLeaks case struggle4progress Aug 2013 #112
You took time out from celebrating Spirochete Aug 2013 #142
Nobody's celebrating. It's a sad case, involving a confused kid, who released hundreds of thousands struggle4progress Aug 2013 #169
Free Bradley, make room for a Bankster Vincardog Aug 2013 #113
I Agree, Immediate Pardon. Remember Obama's promise to protect whistleblowers? NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #114
pardon NJCher Aug 2013 #115
Amnesty International petition gaining steam on white house petition site limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #116
K&R nt TBF Aug 2013 #117
K&R. Considering he was tortured while in custody, his sentence is especially egregious. n/t myrna minx Aug 2013 #118
Obama is going to let Siegelman and Manning rot in prison but pardon Bush rhett o rick Aug 2013 #119
Never understood why Obama hasn't pardoned Siegelman, either. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #132
To become president he had to make a deal with the devil. Apparently the devil dont like rhett o rick Aug 2013 #157
K & R n/t xocet Aug 2013 #120
K&R n/t Duval Aug 2013 #122
Nominate Manning AND Snowden for Nobel Peace Prize...let's see action EVDebs Aug 2013 #123
Let the kid go!!!!!! Pyrzqxgl Aug 2013 #124
K&R Grey Aug 2013 #125
Done. WH petition signed. nt Ilsa Aug 2013 #126
Definitely! KoKo Aug 2013 #127
Checking in MissDeeds Aug 2013 #128
It's not like he got us in a war because of Lies, or outed an agent, like Kkkarl . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #129
Freedom for Bradley NeverAsItSeems Aug 2013 #130
Yes YES YES YES YES YES YES YES Bigmack Aug 2013 #131
K&R Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #133
Yeah right. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #135
Free Manning and imprison the JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #136
full pardon for Bradley and 35 years in the slammer for the terrorist Kissinger Agony Aug 2013 #137
Obama will never pardon Bradley Manning. The Establishment has him by the balls >> YOHABLO Aug 2013 #138
Plus Medal of Honor as he showed true courage on point Aug 2013 #139
K&R Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #140
Checking in. Euphoria Aug 2013 #141
plus he deserves an apology for pre-trial detainment and torture - not negotiable Agony Aug 2013 #143
And compensation. He should be given a medal for what he did. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #144
I support this. n/t whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #145
I fully support this but won't hold my breath. NealK Aug 2013 #146
call the whitehouse comment line - all day tomorrow - 202-456-1111 Agony Aug 2013 #147
I'm in! -- Hello NSA, it's me again /nt Bragi Aug 2013 #148
Me too!!! raindaddy Aug 2013 #150
Pardon, apology, and restitution n/t Scootaloo Aug 2013 #151
Minneapolis emergency protest demands pardon for Bradley Manning annm4peace Aug 2013 #152
Check defacto7 Aug 2013 #153
Double Check! defacto7 Aug 2013 #154
Where do I sign? Peregrine Took Aug 2013 #155
Whoever thought intimidation was a good strategy is wrong felix_numinous Aug 2013 #156
K&R! bluestateboomer Aug 2013 #158
Heros should be free! BillyRibs Aug 2013 #159
I'm in. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #160
Full Pardon for Manning, NOW! burrowowl Aug 2013 #161
Yes. raging moderate Aug 2013 #162
K&R n/t Michigan-Arizona Aug 2013 #163
I'd support a sentence commutation to time served Recursion Aug 2013 #164
Kick & recommended. William769 Aug 2013 #165
Obama pardoned criminal Ted "Bridge to Nowhere" Stevens (R-AK), he can pardon our heroes too. grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #166
I forgot to check in before. Yes I am for a pardon. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #167
Yes Pardon Manning. Milliesmom Aug 2013 #168
Bradley Manning's pardon must be demanded overwhelmingly lofty1 Aug 2013 #170
Pardon Bradley Manning immediately. n/t enigmatic Aug 2013 #171
k&r for Truth avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #172
ASAP donheld Aug 2013 #173
pardon spike91nz Aug 2013 #174
K&R LittleBlue Aug 2013 #175
+1. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #176
K (as in Kick him loose) & R! n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #177
K&R burnodo Aug 2013 #178
knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #179
The Manning/Snowden effect polynomial Aug 2013 #180
K & R nt tomg Aug 2013 #181
Watching the drone strike on the reporters and then the 1st responders with the 2 little kids Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #182
Who? George II Aug 2013 #183
Chelsea deserves nothing less Politicub Aug 2013 #184
yes, immediate pardon for Chelsea nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #185
Yes,of course Theyletmeeatcake2 Aug 2013 #186
checking in Little Star Aug 2013 #187
Yes! Totally agree. maddiemom Aug 2013 #188
I thnk she should be pardoned immediately. Cronus Protagonist Aug 2013 #191
Damn straight, it's BULLSHIT. orbitalman Aug 2013 #193
Aye TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #194
He is a true military hero. RedCloud Aug 2013 #195
Manning should get what he deserves . . .the Congressional Medal of Honor. Faryn Balyncd Aug 2013 #196
Yes. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #197
While I agree in principle... rwsanders Aug 2013 #198
I still say he is a true hero. RedCloud2 Aug 2013 #199
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