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PassingFair

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41. That sign was state sponsorship of religion. Pure and simple.

Reply to Kurmudgeon (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:58 PM

Feb 2012

It had no place in a public school.

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Freedom From Religion : A Fearless Young Woman Takes a Stand [View all] stockholmer Feb 2012 OP

As an atheist myself, I would have ignored the poster and... Speck Tater Feb 2012 #1

Um, it's a public school. She's right. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #7

The establishment clause...AND the Free Exercise clause are equal. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #11

Wow do you have that backwards jeff47 Feb 2012 #12

Hmm, a dead horse argument, and you think a prayer on a wall is discrimination. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #16

These "special little rules and laws' are called THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #23

It's discrimination when the Christian prayer is the only one on the wall jeff47 Feb 2012 #34

That sign was state sponsorship of religion. Pure and simple. PassingFair Feb 2012 #41

Bullshit. The SCOTUS has repeatedly affirmed that endorsements of faith BY public schools are a Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #14

Nice cursing, Warren, If one is forced to "Keep it" in church, then that is NOT "free exercise". Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #17

So, are the courts wrong when they order prayer banners removed etc? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #18

Are you saying the courts are never wrong? Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #26

No, I'm asking a question. Are you going to answer it? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #31

...What comes around? I won't be able to put up a poster that says "God is pretend" in your church? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #21

Oh, the straw man attack, I've seen this one before. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #27

If you've seen it before, you should be able to come up with a much better response than that. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2012 #36

You're absolutely right one one thing- That wasn't a real apology. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #39

Problem with "belief" is it's used to deny Reality fascisthunter Feb 2012 #55

Hey.. do you like counting? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #22

It's a protest on a different subject, try reading the signs next time. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #28

I was there, Jacko. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #38

Do they really use that term? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #47

Transparency Page. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #64

Fuck. Did you cuss out an ass who calls pro-choicers Tsiyu Feb 2012 #52

Short answer? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #63

Public schools should crunch60 Feb 2012 #24

That is a false assumption. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #30

I notice that you are of the same faith in the mural Marrah_G Feb 2012 #33

Really? Surprising since I consider myself non-denominational Christian. Kurmudgeon Mar 2012 #76

So would it be ok for an crunch60 Mar 2012 #74

People who comment about "cursing" on DU Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #29

I have no intention of killing anyone or making threats, so don't worry. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #32

Take a look at the transparency page of the person you're responding to Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #40

When debating someone I never feel the need to assert that they have sex with their mother. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #43

Intellectually Lazy Retort ProfessorGAC Feb 2012 #50

One is not forced in keeping it in church. LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #59

I am proud to be 'ignored' by you, as you clearly (if your 'societal norms' analogy is accepted) stockholmer Feb 2012 #8

I do the same as well with a lot of things. BUT in this case the girl is right. A public school Justice wanted Feb 2012 #9

Yeah, and what's up with those upity gay people wanting to get married! jeff47 Feb 2012 #13

Wow do you have that backwards! Speck Tater Feb 2012 #19

So how, exactly would she turn her school to a different radio station? jeff47 Feb 2012 #35

Imagine this Speck Tater Feb 2012 #51

It was offensive to her, this is her life, not yours or mine. Tsiyu Feb 2012 #53

I say "live and let live" and you accuse me of wanting to let her die? Speck Tater Feb 2012 #60

I'm very calm Tsiyu Feb 2012 #61

We all have that one thing in common... Speck Tater Feb 2012 #65

No time for the cute here Tsiyu Feb 2012 #66

This is no game, sir. Speck Tater Feb 2012 #67

My, my Tsiyu Feb 2012 #68

WTF??? Ok. I've wasted enough time with you on this. Bye now. nt Speck Tater Feb 2012 #73

I am very Proud of Jessica chemp Feb 2012 #2

bookmarking for later BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #4

thank you so much for posting this stockholmer Feb 2012 #10

My favorite line: "They're using the Constitution to turn this into a secular country." chaplainM Feb 2012 #15

As a Christian I solute her. She is right. My faith is a personal matter and I never try to foist it jwirr Feb 2012 #3

She's fighting not JUST for atheists. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #5

Call the Westboro Church JohnnyRingo Feb 2012 #6

This young woman, quite simply, rocks. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #20

She's awesome! Good job for sticking up for your beliefs. neverforget Feb 2012 #25

"Sticking up for your beliefs:" the sliding Republican rating scale DFW Feb 2012 #37

This is what offended Ms Ahlquist, after being displayed in the school for 50 years: Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #42

A court decided it was an endorsement of religion. That should "offend" anyone with a respect for Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #45

If Congress ever makes a law respecting the establishment of religion, Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #46

Not every day you see a pre-1860s mindset... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #62

"Heavenly father" and "Amen" make it pretty clearly Christian Marrah_G Feb 2012 #69

Ever been to a synagogue? (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #71

Nope, but have spent alot of time in Cranston! Marrah_G Feb 2012 #72

I have a problem with these cases, because it just gives fuel to the right. JNathanK Feb 2012 #44

Imagine an atheist taking offence to Christmas Day being a national holiday, Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #48

"Help us to be good sports and smile when we lose as well as when we win." lol Tsiyu Feb 2012 #54

But Zee Reich Wing Must Have Zeer Way fascisthunter Feb 2012 #56

For the rest of her life, anyone who Googles her name, like potential employers, Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #57

My guess is, she will go on to do great and noble things Tsiyu Feb 2012 #58

I want schools to be Godless Marrah_G Feb 2012 #70

I just want schools to not be biased toward any religion or lack of religion. JNathanK Mar 2012 #75

Those who "opt out" are then outsiders Marrah_G Mar 2012 #77

I used to opt out from the pledge of allegiance and the school prayers JNathanK Mar 2012 #78