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KharmaTrain

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14. A Lot Play The "Whatif" Game...
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:58 PM
Aug 2013

...and with a limited degree of validity. If a government can accumulate all this data then it has the ability to use it in whatever manner against a private citizen. And there is a track record of abuses, but the two don't necessarily synch up in this case...why I was asking for a specific example of the NSA being used in the wrongful arrest/prosecution. Then the argument goes further that while this administration may be benign, that doesn't preclude a future one from once again abusing privacy. It turns into an endless look and add more spinning and speculation and soon black helicopters show up.

The first step is to go from yelling about the problem to finding out exactly what that problem is. This is a job for a Senator Wyden and others in the House & Senate who have the ability to call witness testimony under oath and then enact or amend laws to prevent abuses. Maybe I'm a dreamer...

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How would we know? nt bemildred Aug 2013 #1
Fair question. TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #7
How would we know....since it's all secret as to who they DataMine? KoKo Aug 2013 #2
Still a fair question, but... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #8
Your question is absurd RobertEarl Aug 2013 #3
Speaking of absurd, I asked who has been harmed... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #9
I told you RobertEarl Aug 2013 #13
We know that both the IRS and DEA used this info Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #4
Do we know that? Evidence. Evidence. TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #11
Let's Look At It This Way... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #5
That's kinda my point... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #12
A Lot Play The "Whatif" Game... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #14
When our government was torturing prisoners....? kentuck Aug 2013 #6
It hurt the prisoners it tortured... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #10
"all touchyfeelymetaphysical"?? kentuck Aug 2013 #18
$75bn is no trifling amount for the taxpayers to cough up to be spied on. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #15
Oh come on-- this is the entire intelligence budget... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #16
So? You think the intellingence budget is worthwhile to that extent? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #17
How quaint. Of course I don't appreciate a huge spy budget, but... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #19
Since it's secret, we have no way of knowing. JoeyT Aug 2013 #20
It's tough to see how a bazillion random phone numbers or emails could... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #21
It's about Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #22
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