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renie408

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42. I am not sure I either understand or agree with your premise
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:29 PM
Feb 2012

that insurance is ONLY for catastrophic events.

My husband got a tiny speck of metal in his eye about two years ago. After about 24 hours of having a painful watery eye that no amount of eyewash could get the speck out, I drove him to the doctor's office. He never even saw an actual doctor, the nurse took a big fat Q-tip with some ophthalmic ointment on it and dabbed it on the speck and out it came. Literally, he was back in the room for MAYBE fifteen minutes. And the bill?

$740.

Yep. I am not lying. They charged us $300 while we were there, which we almost fainted over and we got ANOTHER bill in the mail for another $440. For a Q-tip. I refused to pay the second amount and raised holy hell. After a few months of argument, they backed off the second bill. But not until they had sent to collections and we were harassed and threatened and treated like criminals.

Right now we are one of those families that makes more than $50,000 (barely) and don't have health coverage. Since both my husband and I are self-employed, we have no coverage through work unless we pay for it ourselves. The cheapest, crappiest policy we can get for all four of us runs $546 a month. And we just don't have it. My son is covered through insurance he gets from the college he attends and my daughter is covered under a state health initiative. My husband and I just keep our fingers crossed.

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Health insurance as we now use it is a "wage" in leu of money. Employers are concerned about the Vincardog Feb 2012 #1
Excellent post, thank you DJ13 Feb 2012 #2
Any time You are welcome Vincardog Feb 2012 #4
I'll be honest. It could have been A HELL a lot better. I think it is a water down mess BUT it Justice wanted Feb 2012 #3
I find it interesting that now even people on the left call it "Obamacare" bluestateguy Feb 2012 #5
The OP is not on the left CreekDog Feb 2012 #8
I just use it Black and Gold Feb 2012 #9
does your plan cover everybody? CreekDog Feb 2012 #16
it is total bullshit noiretextatique Feb 2012 #40
One possible problem I see is the insurance itself. expatriate2mex Feb 2012 #6
You are assuming that the insurance companies aren't the biggest part of the problem. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #7
I want to Black and Gold Feb 2012 #13
Uh, it's called health insurance, not cancer insurance. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #17
That "incentivising" sounds reasonable, but what are you going to do when ... surrealAmerican Feb 2012 #41
Is it the best idea? C'mon. That is a ridiculously high standard to critique any law. Skinner Feb 2012 #10
I think at this point, it would be a good time SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #15
But it got through congress without Dokkie Feb 2012 #31
I was very dissatisfied with "Obamacare" for several reasons, and you have very thoughtfully... northoftheborder Feb 2012 #11
Until profit is taken out of the healthcare/insurance industry, there will be no perfect solution. liberal N proud Feb 2012 #12
Obamacare was what was possible but other systems that are socialized do better for less CreekDog Feb 2012 #14
Because I don't Black and Gold Feb 2012 #19
Do you know how much a doctors visit is?! FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #20
Universal care only happens in *more* socialized systems CreekDog Feb 2012 #21
That is... Black and Gold Feb 2012 #27
Yet, here you are complaining about Obamacare, which gives the PRIVATE SECTOR millions of new FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #28
You're ignoring the rest of the world's health care systems --which is why you're wrong CreekDog Feb 2012 #29
Please tell me... Black and Gold Feb 2012 #30
you're against Obamacare, you're against socialized medicine of any kind CreekDog Feb 2012 #36
Pretty ProSense Feb 2012 #22
I'd also argue that the scheme isn't intended to be implemented, just used to undermine Obamacare CreekDog Feb 2012 #24
Exactly. The previous Republican talking point was "repeal and replace." subterranean Feb 2012 #44
RWingers think attacking Obamacare is winning political tactic. DCBob Feb 2012 #18
Well, I have some thoughts, but I MineralMan Feb 2012 #23
I know the feeling, SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #25
There is definitely a better system loyalsister Feb 2012 #26
The best idea??? It isn't even a good one. TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #32
We need single payer. Socialized health care. Quantess Feb 2012 #33
your "over-utilization" premise is questionable, at best noiretextatique Feb 2012 #34
What do you mean Black and Gold Feb 2012 #35
and therein lies the problem noiretextatique Feb 2012 #38
I'm sorry but SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #39
I am not sure I either understand or agree with your premise renie408 Feb 2012 #42
Aww. You were so young, too. DevonRex Feb 2012 #37
you are ignoring the reasons why it's employer-based Enrique Feb 2012 #43
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