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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
65. You're being obnoxious because you can't handle that somoene disagrees with you. It's really simple
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:55 PM
Aug 2013

I think he did something terribly wrong, I think the act he has been found guilty of deserves a long prison sentence absent mitigating factors.

I think the abuse he has experienced his whole life is a mitigating factor. I think the multiple behavioral issues he has exhibited since joining the army (nothing to do with the transgender factor), the problems with authority, fighting, almost getting kicked out multiple times, means that the army is also partly to blame, as no one with those issues should have been given a security clearance at all. He should in fact have been kicked out of the army in basic training.

Add that all together and you have someone who in my opinion deserves some punishment but not over 6-8 years.

There are people who commit crimes where there are mitigating factors all the time. There is nothing remotely unusual about that.

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There are those two words again: Obama, hope... polichick Aug 2013 #1
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #11
Nice try, but I'll stand by my post. polichick Aug 2013 #17
The op is hope. Well placed hope. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #37
yes. I saw plenty of GLBT activists partying when it occurred, so I take that to mean Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #45
Telling someone to STFU LWolf Aug 2013 #41
all combat troops are out of Iraq. The troop draw down in Afghanistan has begun in earnest and will Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #46
One of the reasons LWolf Aug 2013 #49
They weren't rewarded for hoping. They weren't dogs, getting a treat for performing a trick. winter is coming Aug 2013 #52
And I hope he'll finally give me a pony... truebrit71 Aug 2013 #2
I don't know yet. I haven't started to approach anyone about it yet. stevenleser Aug 2013 #4
My pony or the commutation of Manning's sentence...?? truebrit71 Aug 2013 #19
Neither. I'll get working on both of those right away. LOL! nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #23
Thanks!!! truebrit71 Aug 2013 #24
I like this a lot Steven. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #38
O\I'm holding out for a pardon for Siegleman BEFORE he leaves office. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #3
Agreed. That has to happen too. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #8
LOL! HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #5
I'm hoping for today that happens... neither will happen. n/t 1awake Aug 2013 #6
sure and they will let all the pot people they have busted go too CBGLuthier Aug 2013 #7
That's something nice to hope for... joeybee12 Aug 2013 #9
More likely Hillary Clinton would commute sometime in her second term, if it ever happened. MADem Aug 2013 #10
He is eligible for parole in 12 years minus time served awaiting trial so 9-10 years is first chance stevenleser Aug 2013 #14
What is KEY for him is that he has to have the right "attitude." MADem Aug 2013 #21
Didn't Obama condemn him publicly G_j Aug 2013 #12
What's magical about his last day? Commute the fucker NOW. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #13
So the "hope" comes on his last day in office, eh? villager Aug 2013 #15
Good catch! Rex Aug 2013 #40
If it is the right thing to do, he should do it immediately. Waiting until razorman Aug 2013 #16
I don't think its the right thing to do now. I don't think this is enough time. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #18
Yeah, the sentences for the killers is so much more that we snappyturtle Aug 2013 #33
+1 Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #20
Ha! That'll happen, sure. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #22
We know where the center-right stands on the issue. The Link Aug 2013 #25
Not until you tell us we don't. What is your center right opinion? nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #26
Will you be on Fox News to talk about your support of the sentence? When can I tune in? The Link Aug 2013 #27
You made my prediction come true. I PM'd someone that I thought you would come back with that! stevenleser Aug 2013 #28
I PM'd someone to say that you would support the sentencing of Manning. The Link Aug 2013 #31
And you were wrong. What a surprise! Who was President the last time you were right about something? stevenleser Aug 2013 #47
let's all imagine that is what he is going to do Enrique Aug 2013 #29
Never going to happen. He will pardon... Hotler Aug 2013 #30
The DOJ is doing the "hard work" on that as we speak. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #36
hope in one hand, $#!7 in the other...... PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #32
The same Obama that's gone after Snowdon? Yeah, right. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #34
please, hold your breath ArcticFox Aug 2013 #35
Now now RobertEarl Aug 2013 #43
Spot on. The Link Aug 2013 #53
I don't make my income from politics, but then you knew that as you have been told multiple times. stevenleser Aug 2013 #62
Awww ArcticFox haz a sad. stevenleser Aug 2013 #48
It will please me greatly ArcticFox Aug 2013 #69
Won't happen. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #39
K&R one_voice Aug 2013 #42
This was sarcasm I assume? panzerfaust Aug 2013 #44
Lol. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #50
I would not start planning on having a coming home party yet. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #51
I always have hope that Obama will correct his course. dkf Aug 2013 #54
Same here and waiting til his last day in office is kinda cruel imo. Rex Aug 2013 #55
:) nt Zorra Aug 2013 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #57
You don't get to have it both ways. The man has been harshly sentenced, just as our Marr Aug 2013 #58
I keep expecting a resignation from many "Dems" during the month of August. truedelphi Aug 2013 #59
I get to have any opinions I want to have, just as you do. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #61
Of course you *can*. But some opinions might make you look like a Marr Aug 2013 #64
You're being obnoxious because you can't handle that somoene disagrees with you. It's really simple stevenleser Aug 2013 #65
Its just self-promotion to score another right wing media gig. The Link Aug 2013 #66
I realize it makes you feel important to attack someone who is out there in media stevenleser Aug 2013 #67
... The Link Aug 2013 #68
I was hoping the same that Manning gets released on Obama's last day gopiscrap Aug 2013 #60
I don't trust Obama's judgment as far as pardons are concerned. Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #63
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