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JoePhilly

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35. Neither party is going to do what you describe.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:03 PM
Aug 2013

The GOP isn't going to "clean house" in any meaningful way. The crazy red districts will stay crazy and red. And the crazy Republican Senate candidates will struggle to win primaries in anything but very red states. And then they will lose in their General. The Dems should be able to hold the Senate, and make some in-roads in the House, although taking it back will be tough given the gerrymandering. Crazy red will stay crazy red until it dies of old age.

On the Democratic side ... for all the screaming about the evil DLC, those screaming don't seem to have much of an alternative group of candidates to put forward. Take NC ... the DLC helped Kay Hagen beat Dole. Are you telling me the left in NC is going to primary Kagen and get a more liberal Dem into that seat? I doubt that.

The angry part of the left struggles to maintain any sort of focus. Their outrage jumps from topic to topic with such speed that any momentum gathered at any time dissipates as they argue about which issue is the one to protest and focus on today.

Have you ever noticed that no matter what issue the President is dealing with now, its not the right one for many on the left. They immediately jump to something else that's MORE important ... only to shift again a few short weeks later to something else.

The real problem you have is that you see the two parties as exactly the same. And so, fighting against one is fighting both.

The vast majority of Americans actually see two distinct parties. Because there are two distinct parties.

The case you are trying to make is that those Americans should be equally against a blue dog and GOP opponent. But you don't have enough good liberal alternatives to really push that anywhere. Yet you expect people to be concerned about the difference between a non-existent alternative candidate and the actual Dem candidate ... rather than the difference between the actual existing Dem candidate and the actual GOP candidate.

If the left is actually going to purge the party of the impure dems ... its going to need to start putting forward A LOT MORE alternative primary candidates that actually exist. The endless carping is insufficient.

I'm not sure what your "bog" point is all about. "Somebody endorsed some site or they should have or not because Obama in the last cycle said or did something .... " ... see ... this is what I'm talking about ... FOCUS.

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Sounds like the making of a 3rd party. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #1
Sounds the same to me maddezmom Aug 2013 #2
I have an old high school friend who moved to TX some years back. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #8
I have a girlfriend who is similar maddezmom Aug 2013 #9
lol ... I respond to my old friend's insanity because ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #15
But Who Leads... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #6
Agree ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #12
okay then nevermind elehhhhna Aug 2013 #27
The DLC created a 3rd party n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #10
And they are kicking your ass apparently. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #13
LOL 2012 midterms - lowest turnout in decades leftstreet Aug 2013 #14
How they do at the top of the ticket? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #17
Campaign like FDR, govern like Reagan leftstreet Aug 2013 #20
. elehhhhna Aug 2013 #28
In Oregon we had high turn out, low DLC content. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #25
That must be your proclivity, because to me it sounds like both Parties are getting ready to clean Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #22
Neither party is going to do what you describe. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #35
I don't know where you live,but sufrommich Aug 2013 #3
Don't forget Obamaphones, socialized atheism and anchor babies!! Myrina Aug 2013 #5
I also notice that the most paranoid sufrommich Aug 2013 #16
I've noticed the preppers thing, too LisaLynne Aug 2013 #24
lol. nt sufrommich Aug 2013 #26
Or have someone pay Beck to convince them there's a safe colony on Mars .... Myrina Aug 2013 #31
That's what it's going to take to bring about meaningful change. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #4
To paraphrase EarlG... greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #7
LOL maddezmom Aug 2013 #11
I did! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #21
Yup. HappyMe Aug 2013 #18
Not that I want to set eyes on either of them, of course. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #23
I don't know any cons. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #19
mine are coworkers and some social acquant.'s elehhhhna Aug 2013 #29
Toon..... the illusion Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #30
Spot on. woo me with science Aug 2013 #32
So you want bipartisanship. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #36
You are, of course, correct. woo me with science Aug 2013 #33
I always think there's a major realignment in the offing, nyquil_man Aug 2013 #34
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