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TreasonousBastard

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19. How quaint. Of course I don't appreciate a huge spy budget, but...
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 05:18 PM
Aug 2013

the fact is that we happen to live in a dangerous, sneaky, and scary world. Spies are, unfortunately, a fact of life-- everyone spies on us and we spy on everyone. Is that good? I doubt it, but try to change it.

When Stimson shut down the spies under Hoover, was there any interest at all in whether or not that eventually led to a blind spot in the activities of Germany and Japan?

Every time there's any kind of major tragedy, an attack, a storm, an earthquake, our immediate reaction is how to stop it from happening again, or at least to mitigate the damage.

After Pearl Harbor, who would dare say we don't need to watch out for foreign military ventures. After 9-11, who would dare say militants are no threat? Those in charge of seeing it doesn't happen again simply look at the possible consequences of not doing something that could be done.

If your job was to make sure another American city doesn't get horrifically attacked, how would you know where to stop? And how would your cost/benefit analysis look?



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How would we know? nt bemildred Aug 2013 #1
Fair question. TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #7
How would we know....since it's all secret as to who they DataMine? KoKo Aug 2013 #2
Still a fair question, but... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #8
Your question is absurd RobertEarl Aug 2013 #3
Speaking of absurd, I asked who has been harmed... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #9
I told you RobertEarl Aug 2013 #13
We know that both the IRS and DEA used this info Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #4
Do we know that? Evidence. Evidence. TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #11
Let's Look At It This Way... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #5
That's kinda my point... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #12
A Lot Play The "Whatif" Game... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #14
When our government was torturing prisoners....? kentuck Aug 2013 #6
It hurt the prisoners it tortured... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #10
"all touchyfeelymetaphysical"?? kentuck Aug 2013 #18
$75bn is no trifling amount for the taxpayers to cough up to be spied on. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #15
Oh come on-- this is the entire intelligence budget... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #16
So? You think the intellingence budget is worthwhile to that extent? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #17
How quaint. Of course I don't appreciate a huge spy budget, but... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #19
Since it's secret, we have no way of knowing. JoeyT Aug 2013 #20
It's tough to see how a bazillion random phone numbers or emails could... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #21
It's about Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #22
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