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Lurks Often

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5. There are a number of reasons weapons costs and the military budget have sky rocketed,
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 08:35 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:53 AM - Edit history (1)

First the increasingly sophisticated weapons, primarily in the electronics and propulsion methods have required increasingly skilled workers to make, with the corresponding higher labor costs.
Second, military equipment is being expected to stay in service longer and longer. As an example the average plane in the 1950's was replaced by a newer aircraft every 5-7 years, since they weren't expected to last that long, they were cheaper to make. Now they are expected to stay in service, depending on type, an average of 20-30 years, with certain aircraft, such as the B-52 and KC-135 being even older.*
Third, our standard of living compared to the average Russian or Chinese worker is much higher. If you compare American equipment to British and German equipment of like type, you'll find the costs are much the same on average.
Fourth, Congress often buys the military things it does not want or funds things that aren't necessary. The second engine by GE for the F-35 isn't something the Air Force wanted, having a second engine would have required 2 different supply lines, 2 different kinds training, etc.

Yes there are cost overruns, partly due to the makers and partly due to the military and government changing their minds and coming back to the makers and adding or changing something which adds to the cost.

I'll also point out that when American equipment faces Chinese or Russian equipment on the battlefield, the Russian and Chinese equipment invariably comes off second best, although I will grant that superior training on our part certainly is factor.

*More accurately aircraft are designed to last a certain amount of flight hours, which varies from plane to plane, the higher the amount of flight hours required, the more expensive it gets.

A Tale of two Ships [View all] unhappycamper Feb 2012 OP
Dear UHC, I love your posts tech3149 Feb 2012 #1
There are a number of reasons weapons costs and the military budget have sky rocketed, Lurks Often Feb 2012 #5
Great post... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #10
Hardly a fair comparison Lurks Often Feb 2012 #2
I was not comparing the utility of these shps, just the COST of these ships. n/t unhappycamper Feb 2012 #8
The costs are not comparable. It really is apples to oranges. NutmegYankee Feb 2012 #9
Still not a fair comparison since they serve drastically different roles n/t Lurks Often Feb 2012 #14
Apples to oranges madokie Feb 2012 #3
Is that all? pintobean Feb 2012 #4
This isn't a fair comparison. NutmegYankee Feb 2012 #6
Tend to agree Red Mountain Feb 2012 #7
A better comparison would be with the Gerald R Ford class Alcibiades Feb 2012 #11
Please do some basic research before posting Lurks Often Feb 2012 #12
I know they have been used in disaster relief Alcibiades Feb 2012 #16
You are the one who stated Lurks Often Feb 2012 #20
Insert the word "defining" Alcibiades Feb 2012 #23
Let's talk about Ford-class aircraft carriers. unhappycamper Feb 2012 #13
And Gas in 1955 (when CV-59 was commissioned) was $0.23 a gallon. NutmegYankee Feb 2012 #15
Don't know enough about the poster Alcibiades Feb 2012 #18
I agree they didn't believe in standing armies NutmegYankee Feb 2012 #19
OK Alcibiades Feb 2012 #24
wikipedia says 9 billion Alcibiades Feb 2012 #17
Because while we have 11, Lurks Often Feb 2012 #21
We've managed to do just fine Alcibiades Feb 2012 #22
Then you have a different interpration then Lurks Often Feb 2012 #25
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