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MuseRider

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33. My transgendered friends

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 09:24 PM

Aug 2013

are the most honest and the bravest people I know. Anyone who has never been through the process with someone or part of the process with someone cannot possibly understand how very difficult it is. The outcome is miraculous in most cases but the process is torturous. All it takes is a little thought to begin to imagine how difficult and life changing this is.

I have no respect for those who refuse to even try to learn how to address people dealing with this issue.

I almost wish I had been here to fill my empty ignore list. At this point there is bigotry or acceptance and the only reason for bigotry is willful ignorance and a need to hate on others. I have no room in my life for people like that.

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Just a general observation if I may [View all] William769 Aug 2013 OP

Well said. Curmudgeoness Aug 2013 #1

Thank you. William769 Aug 2013 #7

Same here. NealK Aug 2013 #94

We'll change like we did on inmate rape. duhneece Aug 2013 #130

I hope you are right. Curmudgeoness Aug 2013 #131

Time will tell duhneece Aug 2013 #133

That, or Curmudgeoness Aug 2013 #141

Good post. Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #2

Thanks. William769 Aug 2013 #19

Sorry to hear about that, that is sad. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #3

Very good quote. William769 Aug 2013 #23

Goethe but others could have said it too Catherina Aug 2013 #127

Recommended. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #4

Can always count on you. William769 Aug 2013 #25

I agree completely. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #5

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #6

Good post. Glad I missed the transphobia. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #8

DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #9

Well said as always maddezmom Aug 2013 #10

Right back atcha. William769 Aug 2013 #12

Well said! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #11

Nail on the head, William! longship Aug 2013 #13

Thanks. William769 Aug 2013 #47

Yep. Lots of people that need to educated with persistence. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #14

K&R Fumesucker Aug 2013 #15

I agree. There's no excuse for it. DevonRex Aug 2013 #16

Thank you. William769 Aug 2013 #17

K&R.. one_voice Aug 2013 #18

Well we all like to speak in one voice. William769 Aug 2013 #31

Amen DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #20

Those were tough days. Neoma Aug 2013 #106

Neoma! Catherina Aug 2013 #116

I'm doing better. New chapter in my life is almost here. (College.) Neoma Aug 2013 #123

True, but DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #124

Some of it was learning about the new rules and using my name as an example too. Neoma Aug 2013 #135

I agree about the mods DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #136

It's barely naming names. You can talk about PPR'd people. Neoma Aug 2013 #137

The debate Catherina Aug 2013 #125

K&R! Hatchling Aug 2013 #21

Well said, sheshe2 Aug 2013 #22

Words to live by. William769 Aug 2013 #24

Many people on DU feel as I do. When I meet someone who is gay, transgender or whatever,.... BlueJazz Aug 2013 #26

Damn good post, Bill. bunnies Aug 2013 #27

Hopefully there is a silver lining. William769 Aug 2013 #28

Fanstastic OP! nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #29

Coming from you, that means a lot. William769 Aug 2013 #75

Thanks. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #145

The transgeder issue provided a safe place for people to "launder" their other opinions, IMO arcane1 Aug 2013 #30

Kick and Rec. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2013 #32

Hey! You rascal. William769 Aug 2013 #38

My transgendered friends MuseRider Aug 2013 #33

Well said. William769 Aug 2013 #34

Extremely well said. mimi85 Aug 2013 #54

Thank you William769. enlightenment Aug 2013 #35

Actually you kick started me. William769 Aug 2013 #37

You're welcome, of course - enlightenment Aug 2013 #39

Agreed n/t michigandem58 Aug 2013 #36

Well said, William! Sissyk Aug 2013 #40

Thank you! William769 Aug 2013 #41

I'll stand with you. bvar22 Aug 2013 #42

You are correct. William769 Aug 2013 #43

I've seen the headlines, but haven't been reading the threads. ladyVet Aug 2013 #44

You are absolutely correct. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #45

As it is for many. William769 Aug 2013 #46

It did. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #48

Great to hear! William769 Aug 2013 #49

Absolutlely. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #50

A true Christian aproach . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #51

Actually as a Christian I would rather say it's a Humanist approach. William769 Aug 2013 #52

I was alluding to the Quote from Jesus, the guy that started the Band orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #104

It's wrong, period enigmatic Aug 2013 #53

... William769 Aug 2013 #71

I am disappointed in the transphobia, too, William Politicub Aug 2013 #55

Agreed. William769 Aug 2013 #70

... n2doc Aug 2013 #56

... William769 Aug 2013 #57

Hope you don't mind, tomg Aug 2013 #152

I get so pissed nevergiveup Aug 2013 #58

... William769 Aug 2013 #72

best post of the week, so far. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #59

Your to kind. William769 Aug 2013 #80

Not sure what happened. tblue Aug 2013 #60

... William769 Aug 2013 #64

i just saw one complaining about not being able to feed kids if we pay for manning JI7 Aug 2013 #61

That OP hasn't a clue. William769 Aug 2013 #69

I'm Saddened... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #62

Defenitely! William769 Aug 2013 #66

K&R I am glad I missed it. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #63

I'm glad you did too. I wished I had. William769 Aug 2013 #65

All I can say is, let the PPR's be swift and merciless on these losers. stevenleser Aug 2013 #105

I'm using the trash and ignore button a lot. I will not keep transphobic threads on my screen. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #67

Agreed. William769 Aug 2013 #68

I missed most of it Hydra Aug 2013 #73

Unfortunately being on MIRT William769 Aug 2013 #74

Mahalo, William~ Cha Aug 2013 #76

Hey! William769 Aug 2013 #77

.. Cha Aug 2013 #78

Knr forestpath Aug 2013 #79

Yep. progressoid Aug 2013 #81

Trust me, the one's that have been in MIRTS Purview are history. William769 Aug 2013 #82

Very well said. Some people seem to need a poke in the heart. n/t UtahLib Aug 2013 #83

Agreed. William769 Aug 2013 #85

K&R All I can do at this point is apologise again for the bigotry of so many posters. idwiyo Aug 2013 #84

You my friend have no reason whatsoever to apologize for anything. William769 Aug 2013 #86

I just don't know what else I can do to make up for the shit posted on DU today. Those are straight idwiyo Aug 2013 #89

How does urination technique affect character? Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #87

K&R ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #88

k&r Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #90

K&R n/t FreeState Aug 2013 #91

The masks come off - Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2013 #92

What fresh Hell is this? Hekate Aug 2013 #93

k&r CreekDog Aug 2013 #95

Back atcha. William769 Aug 2013 #96

. CreekDog Aug 2013 #100

KnR. Well said, William. One of my best friends has a transgendered son. Hekate Aug 2013 #97

... William769 Aug 2013 #98

Thank you. NealK Aug 2013 #99

Thank you. TDale313 Aug 2013 #101

Yup, you said it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #102

K&R hwmnbn Aug 2013 #103

Posted this in another transgender thread, she was a hero with a steller military life..... Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #107

DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2013 #108

I couldn't agree more. 99Forever Aug 2013 #109

Well said. K&R myrna minx Aug 2013 #110

Wonderful OP William. A big k&r!!!!! Well said my friend! Little Star Aug 2013 #111

Just today? There was a lull for 2 years but it's rearing its ugly head again Catherina Aug 2013 #112

I just opened my DU mail from MIRT. I think I might take the rest of the day off. William769 Aug 2013 #115

I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to make you sad Catherina Aug 2013 #121

. myrna minx Aug 2013 #138

Chelsea Manning is one of the few heroes of our day. She has my unqualified respect. nt Romulox Aug 2013 #113

My cousin was transgender revolutionbrees Aug 2013 #114

Sorry to hear about all the trouble & strife. Hope Hannah's doing well now, though. n/t AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #147

The fact that I'm not surprised by the bigotry is the most disheartening thing. bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #117

Very well said, William. I intentionally stayed away from DU most of yesterday to avoid Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #118

That may very well be the case for me today. William769 Aug 2013 #120

Nice post. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #119

I agree, but you have to keep in mind that a lot of people are not aware apples and oranges Aug 2013 #122

Thank you, William! City Lights Aug 2013 #126

to quote Ben Franklin DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #128

+1. Excellent analysis, reasoning, writing, and point. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #146

k&R n/t lupinella Aug 2013 #129

it is not phobia, not fear noiretextatique Aug 2013 #132

K&R for support felix_numinous Aug 2013 #134

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #139

Platypus and gender do not equate, are not on the same level, are orthogonal dimensions. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #142

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #143

Those examples do not apply. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #144

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #148

keeping it kicked......n/t dhill926 Aug 2013 #140

Well said what needed to be said and then followed emsimon33 Aug 2013 #149

One of my transgender friends walks with a walker tavalon Aug 2013 #150

YOU KNOW IT WILLIAM Skittles Aug 2013 #151

yup! hopemountain Aug 2013 #153