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60. "As for what Abe said, I agree and support what he said." - Bonobo

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 09:04 AM

Aug 2013

"In October 2006, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's apology was followed on the same day by a group of 80 Japanese lawmakers' visit to the Yasukuni Shrine which enshrines more than 1000 convicted war criminals. Two years after the apology, Shinzo Abe also denied that the Imperial Japanese military had forced comfort women into sexual slavery during World War II . In addition, Prime Minister Abe claimed that the Class A war criminals "are not war criminals under the laws of Japan". He also casted doubt on Murayama apology by saying, "The Abe Cabinet is not necessarily keeping to it" and by questioning the definition used in the apology by saying, "There is no definitive answer either in academia or in the international community on what constitutes aggression. Things that happen between countries appear different depending on which side you're looking from.""

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In my opinion, ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #1

K&R GP6971 Aug 2013 #42

I don't have a problem with what he said. The Link Aug 2013 #2

Really? KT2000 Aug 2013 #5

We can just disagree. The Link Aug 2013 #6

Me too. Japan's government has not exactly been apologetic about the Invasion of China. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #7

Yes, they have been EXACTLY apologetic. Bonobo Aug 2013 #9

Diplomacy aside, there's the matter of overall cultural attitude. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #10

Thanks for admitting you were totally wrong in your statement. Bonobo Aug 2013 #11

"Japan did not engage in an organized holocaust like Germany did. Period." dairydog91 Aug 2013 #18

They did not kill 20 million people and even YOU did not say they did. Bonobo Aug 2013 #19

I said 20 right there in the original post. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #22

How many did the US kill in Vietnam? nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #25

Several million. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #28

Well we agree on something. Bonobo Aug 2013 #31

At least in the early stages, the US might claim that it was trying to stop a war between factions. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #33

And THAT is what Abe meant when he said that different countries see things differently. Bonobo Aug 2013 #34

And at the time of WWII, many Germans justified their own country's invasion. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #37

I completely agree. Bonobo Aug 2013 #38

This is no different from Holocaust denial. nt Romulox Aug 2013 #58

... Scootaloo Aug 2013 #12

LOL. +1 nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #13

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You are a feisty little rascal. Enjoy your incredibly brief stay. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #46

I was just on the jury for a rare 6-0 call for his head... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #49

Another troll was just nixed below me. Probably the same loser. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #51

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Jesus Christ, dude. Go away. Tell your mom to make you a grilled cheese or something. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #53

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While Japan did some nasty things in China, Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #15

Interesting point. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #20

Yet you think drawing a distinction between aggression and a meticulously planned genocide is Bonobo Aug 2013 #21

Mass murder is mass murder. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #24

How many millions have the US killed? Is that mass murder? Bonobo Aug 2013 #26

And had the Vietnamese sent agents to blow up American pro-war supporters... dairydog91 Aug 2013 #32

Post-WWII Germany was incredibly unapologetic. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #48

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Please...Israel of ALL nations doesn't have Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #57

. bunnies Aug 2013 #3

'it's too early to assess the damage to Israel's image that it caused' markiv Aug 2013 #4

Well, the statement IS from the Israeli ambassador. Scootaloo Aug 2013 #14

diplomacy is his job, too markiv Aug 2013 #17

That may not have been intended for public consumption. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueCheese Aug 2013 #8

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the consequence of Japanese aggression, that is clear. tritsofme Aug 2013 #16

Wow, I hardly recognize DU these days Hydra Aug 2013 #23

How does one qualify for that? Same way the Germans "qualified" for urban bombing. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #27

Ah, but that's might makes right Hydra Aug 2013 #29

When is it ok to use a weapon that will definitely kill civilians? I don't know. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #35

You have slipped into incoherence. Bonobo Aug 2013 #30

"As for what Abe said, I agree and support what he said." - Bonobo Romulox Aug 2013 #60

I'd take a diplomat like Chiune Sugihara over a Daniel Seaman anytime. Generic Other Aug 2013 #36

Good man. I guess I've got a soft spot for people who "betray" their group to save innocents. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #39

WW2 never rests in peace for long Generic Other Aug 2013 #43

awesome story, thank you nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #55

So the world shouldnt be sympathetic to Japan, and the Japanese people shouldnt comemorate darkangel218 Aug 2013 #40

LOL. Good perspective. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #41

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Jesus. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #47

Seaman was definitely the wrong guy for the job. PotatoChip Aug 2013 #54

Regardless of how one feels about the bombings davidpdx Aug 2013 #56

Japan engaged in a genocidal war of aggression during WWII that killed in excess of 10 million Romulox Aug 2013 #59