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14. I was one of the first to come out for Dean

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Fri Aug 23, 2013, 10:37 AM

Aug 2013

as early as 2003 as I had attended the CA Democratic Convention that year (I was still a Democrat back then). I basically introduced him to this board as NOBODY had heard of him outside of Vermont. However, in the ensuing years, he's become more of a DNC Party Boy and too eager to back virtually anything they do. He's come down on the wrong side of too many issues, including endorsing Race to the Top, that he's just another party shill to me now. Hillary will NEVER get my vote. EVER. The IWR was a deal-breaker -- the never-met-a-corporation-I-didn't-like part is afterthought at this point.

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Howard Dean vs. Hillary Clinton: Who would get your vote? [View all] apples and oranges Aug 2013 OP

Dean, no contest. nt Nay Aug 2013 #1

Ditto. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #2

Warren is not a politician at heart. It's not going to happen apples and oranges Aug 2013 #13

The best politicians are not politicians at heart. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #16

+1. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #4

Ditto, nt Broken_Hero Aug 2013 #68

Dean. n/t Bertha Venation Aug 2013 #3

Or, to put it another way, Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #17

Dean probably Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #5

Hillary, she has lots of experience, is well known in the world, has lots of compassion and could be Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #6

Lots of experience DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #54

Dean. snot Aug 2013 #7

Dean. MelungeonWoman Aug 2013 #8

Dean. Cal33 Aug 2013 #9

Dean XemaSab Aug 2013 #10

Dean. mnhtnbb Aug 2013 #11

Wow guys. So nobody thinks it's important to finally have a woman president? apples and oranges Aug 2013 #12

Are you seriously Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #20

sure... let's have Elizabeth Warren tk2kewl Aug 2013 #21

Yeah, because having the first black president really knocked racism on it's ass snooper2 Aug 2013 #23

+1 one_voice Aug 2013 #51

thank you. Whisp Aug 2013 #70

I'm missing how having a female President's going to help with pay inequality winter is coming Aug 2013 #28

The right woman, yes. LWolf Aug 2013 #30

I'm a woman and would love to see a female prez, BUT, it has to be the right woman. whathehell Aug 2013 #36

Not that woman. Michell Bachman is a woman as well, should we vote for her? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #37

Yes, you're wrong. JVS Aug 2013 #45

Seeing that she is the most viable candidate for a woman president, I'm ready for Hillary!!! Little Star Aug 2013 #47

Then you should have voted for McCain - Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2013 #53

I was one of the first to come out for Dean Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #14

Dean. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2013 #15

Dean. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #18

Dean in a heartbeat. Hillary was wrong on Iraq, is wrong on the NSA and shows HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #19

^This LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #32

Dean by a mile. dkf Aug 2013 #22

Dean MNBrewer Aug 2013 #24

Dean, easily LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #25

Howard. Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #26

I honestly don't know at this point NoPasaran Aug 2013 #27

Dean, absolutely, and I don't understand why you think whathehell Aug 2013 #29

in a primary, dean in a heartbeat. dionysus Aug 2013 #31

If Dean could win, then him. But I'm not so sure he's electable. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2013 #33

Dean, no doubt about it. I'm not sure he's not just another Barack Obama, but I know she is. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #34

Whichever one can demonstrate LWolf Aug 2013 #35

^^ Thread win. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #39

Dean fredamae Aug 2013 #38

Dean. nt City Lights Aug 2013 #40

I don't think one should vote for someone on the basis of the person's having Cal33 Aug 2013 #41

Dean hedda_foil Aug 2013 #42

Dean PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #43

Dean. JVS Aug 2013 #44

Hillary. Hands down! Little Star Aug 2013 #46

Warren/Sanders. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #48

I could live with that..... daleanime Aug 2013 #57

Please come back down to reality Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #72

"Reality": Where Right-Centrists Tell Us We Need to Move Further to the Right LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #75

No Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #77

Dean 840high Aug 2013 #49

Dean - Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2013 #50

"he's never experienced what it's like to have the entire republican party plotting against him" demwing Aug 2013 #52

Dean. /nt AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #55

I think I would vote for Dean. I think he could get things passed easier than she could. jwirr Aug 2013 #56

Dean, maybe. Hillary, never. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #58

Dean protect our future Aug 2013 #59

issue by issue they are both pretty much the same - I wouldn't care - Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #60

Dean MrTriumph Aug 2013 #61

Clinton; I want to win the election, and Dean would get hammered! tableturner Aug 2013 #62

probably neither, maybe Dean, but never Clinton.... mike_c Aug 2013 #63

Dean PADemD Aug 2013 #64

Dr Dean. He's no howling socialist, but he's better Warpy Aug 2013 #65

Well, since Hillary would get Dean's vote... brooklynite Aug 2013 #66

Howard Dean. ananda Aug 2013 #67

Dean, almost anyone but Hillary LittleBlue Aug 2013 #69

Dean. n/t Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #71

I worked on Dean's campaign... AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #73

Clinton. nt bluestate10 Aug 2013 #74

Dean. nt bunnies Aug 2013 #76

Dean! Can I get a YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAH! Erose999 Aug 2013 #78

If he runs Dean Robbins Aug 2013 #79

Dean. postulater Aug 2013 #80