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Major Nikon

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76. And now for the rest of the story
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:42 PM
Feb 2012

The CDC and the FDA have been on a crusade against raw milk for some time now. Why? Well even though raw milk represents only about 3% or less than the market share, it's a growing market. Therefore it's a threat to the dairy industry. The dairy industry is huge. Seen those "got milk?" ads? Brought to you by the dairy industry. The dairy lobby is huge, and the price of milk is highly regulated by a scheme that heavily favors the dairy industry. Read about how this innovator was crushed by big dairy...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/09/AR2006120900925.html

Read about how the dairy industry crushes competion from soy milk...
http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/04/dairy-lobby-tries-ban-soy-milk

The dairy industry contributes millions to politicians and most of that goes to Republicans...
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=a04

So now the dairy industry is going after raw milk. By reading this article, you might walk away with the conclusion that raw milk is a very unsafe product, but is it really? Try doing a web search on the 10 riskiest foods and you won't find raw milk. You'll find things like sprouts, oysters, lunchmeat, tomatoes, potatoes, and ice cream (made from pasteurized milk).
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33183857/ns/health-food_safety/t/riskiest-foods-america/

But, but, but, what about this article the OP posted? Go look at the article and dig a little deeper. Click on the actual report (which leaves a lot of information out, suspiciously), but let's look at what it does say. Over 13 years almost half of the cases of people getting sick from unpasteurized milk products were from cheese. Unpasteurized cheese also resulted in almost twice the number of hospitalizations and all of the deaths compared to unpasteurized whole milk (131 vs 71 hospitalizations). Why is that? Something called queso fresco (and it's cousin queso Oaxaca). It's often made by unlicensed producers(from goats milk usually), or in other words in the kitchens of poor immigrant communities who make it for resale. Almost all the illnesses caused by unpasteurized cheese products can be traced back to illegal Mexican style cheese operations.

So take Mexican style cheese out of the equation and what do you have? Well, you wind up with 903 illnesses, 71 hospitalizations, and zero deaths over a 13 year period from raw milk. Divide 71 by 13 years and you get an average of 5.5 hospitalized each year from the consumption of liquid raw milk. Keep in mind that about 9 million people in the US are consuming unpasteurized dairy products. The chances of getting seriously ill are almost statistically zero. Sound unsafe to you?

But, but, but, what about pasteurized milk? Pasteurized milk makes more people sick and puts more people in the hospital. According to the report, pasteurized dairy made 2842 people sick of which 37 were hospitalized and 1 died.

So if pasteurized dairy is making more people sick, why doesn't the CDC and the FDA go after them too? Well you might say that since pasteurized milk has a lower risk (due to much more volume), that's why they are getting a pass. I would say, what difference does that make? There are plenty of foods that are much riskier than raw milk that the CDC and FDA is NOT going after. If the government were really interested in public health (as they should be), they should be going after the products that are making the most people sick, shouldn't they?

Well, it turns out there's a really good reason why the government is not going after pasteurized milk. The reason is because pasteurized milk is a very safe food product. Damn safe even. So when you compare the risk of pasteurized milk to unpasteurized milk, unpasteurized milk loses, but that doesn't mean it's inherently unsafe. It's kinda like comparing a Volvo to a Prius. The Volvo might be safer, but that doesn't mean the Prius is unsafe.

Over 100,000 people in the US are hospitalized with foodborne illnesses each year. 3,000 of those people die. So why is the CDC and the FDA have a full court press going on against liquid raw milk that only manages to hospitalize 5.5 people each year and kill no one? Keep in mind that once you count up the money spent on these studies and the amount of people the government has employed in enforcement actions adds up in the millions of dollars (tax dollars). Kinda makes you go, hmmmmm. At least it does me anyway. Looks like the dairy industry is getting a bit of payback for the $4.8 million they spent in the 2008 election cycle.

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Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award rocktivity Feb 2012 #1
I was thinking more along the lines of the "Beating a Dead Horse" award. renie408 Feb 2012 #7
Oh, we have those in stock, too rocktivity Feb 2012 #14
You drinks your milk and you takes your chances. MineralMan Feb 2012 #2
I think with milk pasteurization is important Harmony Blue Feb 2012 #29
I'm only talking about milk. MineralMan Feb 2012 #40
It's not just that either Major Nikon Feb 2012 #80
Left to the right wing libtodeath Feb 2012 #3
Perhaps the RW should experience the "health benefits" of raw milk. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #4
I bet one of which libtodeath Feb 2012 #9
Funny though Confusious Feb 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #25
well duh.. madrchsod Feb 2012 #5
We get it. Raw Milk is the root of all evil. renie408 Feb 2012 #8
That doesn't faze me one bit. I buy raw milk from trusted farmns when morningfog Feb 2012 #10
I just stop at a farm and drink it right from the teet. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #11
To each his own. morningfog Feb 2012 #12
I've been hearing more and more how pasteurized milk causes autism so there is that to worry about. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #13
Are you serious? Archae Feb 2012 #46
I think the poster forgot to add a sarcasm tag Saokymo Feb 2012 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #74
I googled it... jmowreader Feb 2012 #50
I'm not surprised in the least. Archae Feb 2012 #75
Darn tootin'! uranus is my home Feb 2012 #65
Most Amish dairy farmers don't sell raw milk. This is not about the Amish. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #78
They're "trusted farms" until they're not. TheWraith Feb 2012 #16
And you can't get raw milk in stores. That is rather my point. morningfog Feb 2012 #18
Cleaver and raw milk go well together. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #24
I'm pretty sure you can quakerboy Feb 2012 #27
Depends on the state. I can't where I am. morningfog Feb 2012 #28
yup Maine-ah Feb 2012 #39
They are trusted until the 9th time on the toilet. nt bluestate10 Feb 2012 #37
Yes. Because germ theory doesn't apply on trusted farms. nt msanthrope Feb 2012 #56
I know where it comes from and the taste is far superior to morningfog Feb 2012 #57
Most of the folks replying to your psot are the very reason truedelphi Feb 2012 #92
There is a technical/scientific term for this qazplm Feb 2012 #15
Funny thing is, in places in the world where there isn't any truedelphi Feb 2012 #17
Causation <> Correlation. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #19
Everything you just said is wrong. TheWraith Feb 2012 #20
When you have had thirty seven articles published, with one of truedelphi Feb 2012 #47
Oh and the study that refutes my being wrong is this one: truedelphi Feb 2012 #48
I grew up on a farm. Silver Swan Feb 2012 #21
I only had raw milk like that at a yearly picnic my truedelphi Feb 2012 #45
Heat. nt msanthrope Feb 2012 #58
magic! Kali Feb 2012 #23
HAHAHAHAHAAAA! Codeine Feb 2012 #34
I read of the connection between coronary heart disease and homogenization. TexasProgresive Feb 2012 #44
Homgenenization = breaking fat into small molecules so the particulates do not stratify Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #52
Actually, even in places like Calif., where smoking is at an all time low, women in their thirtie truedelphi Feb 2012 #59
Who said anything about cancer? Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #68
My point is that right now we have ourselves an epidemic in that truedelphi Feb 2012 #91
Statistics for one thing. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #22
FDA’s crackdown on raw-milk cheese based on flawed data analysis stockholmer Feb 2012 #26
I don't think of once a month as "frequent" quality tests Nikia Feb 2012 #54
I drank raw milk from birth to 18- digonswine Feb 2012 #30
Darwin works in mysterious ways. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #31
Not sure if that is snark- digonswine Feb 2012 #32
I know that is snark, but has raw milk been linked to any deaths? morningfog Feb 2012 #42
yummmm Marrah_G Feb 2012 #84
You know it!! digonswine Feb 2012 #94
One percent of milk causing 60% of illnesses. Codeine Feb 2012 #33
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #64
That's not what the report says Major Nikon Feb 2012 #72
I was born in the 40s and my father was a dairy farmer. As kids we drank milk from his herd but I jwirr Feb 2012 #35
What I don't understand is that there are so many truedelphi Feb 2012 #60
Just follow the money and you'll have your answer Major Nikon Feb 2012 #81
I don't drink any milk, but I think people should be allowed to buy raw milk if they want. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #36
People should also be allowed to shoot themselves in the head mainer Feb 2012 #38
Exactly. A reasoned and rational post. morningfog Feb 2012 #41
If you read the CDC report, you can figure out what your risk is Major Nikon Feb 2012 #82
Thank you, I'll be taking a closer look. morningfog Feb 2012 #90
raw milk is not for everyone Maine-ah Feb 2012 #43
WTF is going on with this "Raw Milk" thing? AnnieBW Feb 2012 #49
Anti-vaxers had to go somewhere. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #51
Right here, baby! uranus is my home Feb 2012 #63
Then you agree with those that want to drink raw milk. morningfog Feb 2012 #55
Actually uranus is my home Feb 2012 #62
Some people are able to recognize when big dairy is getting the government to do their dirty work Major Nikon Feb 2012 #77
But homemade butter is so good madokie Feb 2012 #53
Too effing bad. I have some raw milk cheese in my fridge uranus is my home Feb 2012 #61
it's like fen-phen Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #66
are you seriously comparing Maine-ah Feb 2012 #71
Huh? girl gone mad Feb 2012 #87
Because some people don't mind being a tool for the industry Major Nikon Feb 2012 #88
Or just a tool, in general. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #89
purely anecdotal Bohunk68 Feb 2012 #67
plenty of acid with our without heartburn meds. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #69
Meh. Texasgal Feb 2012 #73
Some people aren't happy unless they are telling others how to run their lives Major Nikon Feb 2012 #79
And now for the rest of the story Major Nikon Feb 2012 #76
Thank you for digging into things Marrah_G Feb 2012 #85
Here's something else. The dairy industry spent almost $7 million on lobbying last year Major Nikon Feb 2012 #86
I have no problem with raw milk Marrah_G Feb 2012 #83
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