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3. I'm not sure that you're example works very well...

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Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:48 PM

Aug 2013

that is unless Elizabeth is transforming into a Native American.

I think it's hard for some people to refer to Ms Manning as a she because she hasn't taken (been allowed) to take the first step towards reassignment.

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What is with so many of you referring to Manning with male pronouns [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 OP

Uh, she was a he 36 hours ago. Give me a day or two to adapt. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #1

it takes you so much time to type up she more than he? La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #2

That means you were calling her a he when he was a she then BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #11

when i learnt her preferred pronoun i adapted. you shouldn't mock someone's transition La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #22

Your thread is what's ridiculous BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #28

i am sure you are not the only person defending transphobia La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #32

You're using Manning as a prop to demonstrate your self-assumed moral superiority BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #39

its not my moral superiority, its my actual behavior. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #44

Lighten up, Francis tom_kelly Aug 2013 #125

Wouldn't that be Francine? Flatulo Aug 2013 #130

No dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #209

Absolutely ridiculous skydive forever Aug 2013 #95

Oh bother. Here we go again, tutoring people who are ignorant about gender disphoria: Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #104

You're wrong. Iggo Aug 2013 #106

But science is NOT on your side. defacto7 Aug 2013 #180

+infinity (nt) LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #259

So brain science is unknown to you. Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #213

Science didn't make you closed minded, you chose that status. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #261

Heck, for many of us, this is the first we've heard that s/he requested the feminine 1monster Aug 2013 #144

Yep libodem Aug 2013 #177

i clarified this through the thread, that i am referring to people who are deliberately calling her La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #184

I'm one of those who didn't know this had been requested. ladyVet Aug 2013 #203

Your post has no logic. We change our reference to a person's preferred sexual identity ... Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #97

Actually, I don't think I've used either pronoun in recent days... Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #20

manning isn't my burning issue either. however transphobia is part of a bigger set La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #47

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #133

la lion, i think some of this does come by honestly elehhhhna Aug 2013 #143

I admit that I've made the "he" error, even in a post supporting her. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #194

people make mistakes and forget. i am not saying there is malice there La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #196

Agreed, and I think some malice is clearly evident in some protestations MNBrewer Aug 2013 #198

exactly La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #200

that is correct. Whisp Aug 2013 #45

i am specifically talking about people who are discussing her transition and calling her male La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #49

You should put that in the OP East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #72

This is the new TransphobiaUnderground DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #99

I would probably be doing the same thing, except... Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #114

You can have a day or two in face to face conversations about her. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #88

So simply *proofread* your post to make sure you haven't accidentally tblue37 Aug 2013 #145

I'm not sure that you're example works very well... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #3

Actually my example works well because aesthetically Warren presents as White La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #4

You might want to rethink your wording there. whopis01 Aug 2013 #229

Not every trans identified person takes hormones or goes through gender reassignment surgery. n/t JackBeck Aug 2013 #6

exactly. none of this is cheap, easily available or necessarily fits ones notion La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #29

What about our President? backscatter712 Aug 2013 #51

I'm not going to call him either rl6214 Aug 2013 #191

Some are honestly not sure what to say, and some are willfully ignoring it. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #5

my point is that why does one feel one has the right to question her choice of pronouns La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #9

People do have a right to say whatever they want and question whatever they want. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #17

Please excuse the ignorance of the frankly ignorant. lapislzi Aug 2013 #127

I really appreciate your attitude! defacto7 Aug 2013 #181

Like those who are saying that since she still has male anatomy JackBeck Aug 2013 #10

Yeah, that's a good example. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #19

I took a peek at Free Republic... that's the typical response from those ignoramuses. tarheelsunc Aug 2013 #86

"... since she still has male anatomy ... Those are some of the worst offenders ..." ? panzerfaust Aug 2013 #308

What the OP is referring to, I am quite certain, is NOT innocent slips tblue37 Aug 2013 #166

yeah i am not talking about people who didnt know or have forgotten La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #186

For Heaven's sake leftynyc Aug 2013 #7

it is malicious to not respect someones preferred gender pronoun La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #15

Knock yourself out leftynyc Aug 2013 #21

got in the habit of calling Manning a He, takes a little bit to remember that Manning GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #8

yes, i can. i do it. it's not that hard. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #12

well, sorry that everyone here is not as perfect as you. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #14

i am not perfect. i am just not La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #16

The second I read the announcement I switched. CBGLuthier Aug 2013 #37

no, but after calling someone a HE for so long I still see HER as a HIM. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #118

FYI - Here's what a jury said about your post. Divernan Aug 2013 #123

I agree people should honor her request . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #13

to be fair ALL the conversations that i am talking about are in the context of her transition La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #18

In that case, I agree with you 100% n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #66

Please see my post #166 above. nt tblue37 Aug 2013 #167

I think some members (that this is directed at) will start caring about that Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #23

LOL.. true La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #26

Yeah, that is weird, never expected to see such issue made of that here. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #27

Prisons have the duty to provide prisoners with proper medical care. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #62

Nothing I have seen attributed to her Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #260

yes, sir! unblock Aug 2013 #24

... bunnies Aug 2013 #78

hear, hear! Little Star Aug 2013 #25

Where it gets confusing is referring to past activities where geek tragedy Aug 2013 #30

the timeline thing i get and i was not questioning that. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #42

It gets to be a juggling act. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #48

i would she consistently, but at the very least use it when referring to her transitioning La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #55

Agreed, but I would not attribute to malice what mere force of habit could explain. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #61

"It just comes out" Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #263

Actually, it is not difficult. I would simply write, tblue37 Aug 2013 #169

Of course it is simple if one is conscious of the language one uses. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #173

That juggling act is the least bad solution. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #211

it's also possibly to just call her manning in the instances that would otherwise be confusing La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #235

To some extent, one can dodge the issue that way, but it isn't always the best answer. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #242

I totally get what you're saying, and it's irritating to me as well. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #31

Some of them are ignorant and some of them are assholes CBGLuthier Aug 2013 #33

actually this is maybe the best explanation on this thread. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #41

Please see my post #166 above. nt tblue37 Aug 2013 #170

The ignorant are trying to learn. lapislzi Aug 2013 #147

I agree with Grumpy olddots Aug 2013 #34

"How is that you feel ok to deny someone the right to use the pronoun they feel fits them the best?" R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #35

I can honestly understand the pronoun mix up due to the time frame, Emit Aug 2013 #36

i think people who are talking about her transition and keep referring to her as male La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #38

We're possibly distracted by her being held as a political prisoner in Leavenworth... Orsino Aug 2013 #40

sheesh, people do have freedom of speech, ya know quinnox Aug 2013 #43

i am not the government so first amendment rights are not my problem. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #52

So true. wild bird Aug 2013 #58

would you feel the same if someone exercised their 1A right to use a racial slur? frylock Aug 2013 #75

depends on the circumstance quinnox Aug 2013 #81

The same DU rules apply to trans* individuals. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #266

Everyone has the right to make a fool/bigot of themselves. Doesn't mean they should. eom tarheelsunc Aug 2013 #89

The OP is not trying to "force" people to use the appropriate pronoun. She is tblue37 Aug 2013 #172

Sheesh, that kind of 'business' has a proper definition - transphobia. Or bigotry. Or both. idwiyo Aug 2013 #253

"Can" =/= "should." And "freedom of speech" is very relative on most Internet message boards. n/t nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #282

Thank you, La Lioness Priyanka. Ignorance used to be an excuse. No longer. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #46

You think everyone already knows about her request? Lots of people only pnwmom Aug 2013 #103

It was appearing in the international news section of most papers here... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #285

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and you're exactly the type of person i am talking about. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #53

That person has disrupted poorly stevenleser Aug 2013 #56

Looks like Skinner took care of it. DURHAM D Aug 2013 #68

We've "lost" about a dozen homophobes this morning alone. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #69

with all due respect azurnoir Aug 2013 #192

Great, I was hoping for another slice of pizza today. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #60

I think it is only fair... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #54

Time's up. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author LumosMaxima Aug 2013 #57

Reflexive pronoun use, I figure Scootaloo Aug 2013 #63

i think though if this was speech i would believe the reflexive use more easily La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #64

True enough Scootaloo Aug 2013 #70

The ones who we really need to watch out for LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #265

I'll just call Bradley/Chelsea "Manning" LittleBlue Aug 2013 #65

why should it be in the lgbt forum? are they the ones referring to manning by male pronouns? La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #67

Because it makes some uncomfortable!! Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #73

She asked to be called Chelsea. Why is that hard? n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #79

No, because it's not a problem in the LGBT forum. Iggo Aug 2013 #222

Republicans declare themselves to be the moral authority railsback Aug 2013 #71

No she's not. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #74

Logic fails you. Neither Limbaugh nor you have the right to declare Chelsea's sexual identity. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #76

Wish I'd written that. bunnies Aug 2013 #90

Only one person is the moral authority on who Manning is gollygee Aug 2013 #80

this. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #91

It is simply a matter of respecting her wishes. Rex Aug 2013 #129

It is also a matter of respecting her as a human being. How can that be so hard for tblue37 Aug 2013 #176

Spot on! Rex Aug 2013 #204

The issue of rights and respect for transgendered people is an extremely important one. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #77

It's bigotry in 99% of the cases. Oh, they pretend to be confused cali Aug 2013 #82

yep. bunnies Aug 2013 #101

That's ridiculous. It has nothing to do with trauma. It has to do with habits. OrwellwasRight Aug 2013 #165

Actually... bunnies Aug 2013 #168

Enjoy your moral superiority. OrwellwasRight Aug 2013 #171

Yeah. I never make mistakes. Thats what I said. bunnies Aug 2013 #175

Well, you've never said, waitress, actress, or coughed in your hands. OrwellwasRight Aug 2013 #199

I smoked for over 20 years. bunnies Aug 2013 #201

Well in post 101 you mocked everyone OrwellwasRight Aug 2013 #205

It wasnt meant to come off that way. bunnies Aug 2013 #206

Truce then. OrwellwasRight Aug 2013 #297

Me too. bunnies Aug 2013 #300

Some of it may be habit. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #83

Do you want explanations... demwing Aug 2013 #84

i want people to acknowledge her gender correctly La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #96

well, it took Chelsea about 25 years demwing Aug 2013 #121

we dont have to struggle with this, she did. its not even close to the same thing La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #139

So I was right after all demwing Aug 2013 #149

how are people who are deliberately using incorrect pronouns an issue of my lacking humility? La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #150

Who appointed you their judge? demwing Aug 2013 #160

am i judging them to some sort of jail time? you're being absurd La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #162

Arrogance was your word, not mine demwing Aug 2013 #174

Since when is it ok to call Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #85

You seem new here. zeemike Aug 2013 #117

I completely respect that Chelsea wants to Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #137

I guess you missed this: bunnies Aug 2013 #148

Yes I did but looked it up. zeemike Aug 2013 #156

Was she forced into this too? bunnies Aug 2013 #159

How would I know that? zeemike Aug 2013 #179

transvesite? bunnies Aug 2013 #182

Sorry but I did not know it was now a forbidden word. zeemike Aug 2013 #195

+1 tallahasseedem Aug 2013 #315

Since all day every day. Iggo Aug 2013 #223

What's your point? That we all can do away with all Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #225

Read what I posted again. Iggo Aug 2013 #226

I did. Chances for what? Calling people names? Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #228

With a jury. You take your chances with a jury. Iggo Aug 2013 #230

Thanks for explaining Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #231

3-3 doesn't hide posts - those posts stay. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #269

You're right... Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #318

Speaking of cryptic... Jamastiene Aug 2013 #311

Couldn't have been all that cryptic.... Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #317

Manning technically *is* male, TBH..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #87

If by "technically" you mean whopis01 Aug 2013 #239

This is a very recent development MynameisBlarney Aug 2013 #92

Sorry. i don't remember names either. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #93

It varies from state to state. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #270

Thanks for the great reply. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #321

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Now see what you've done? NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #116

For some, it's transphobia. For others, it's sheer spite. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #98

actually no one has mentioned spite and i think you might be right La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #100

Not everyone keeps up with DU on a daily basis. It would have been easy pnwmom Aug 2013 #102

i have said this a few times during this thread but the people who are reffering to her La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #107

Oh, okay. Thanks for clarifying. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #110

Perhaps "he/she" would be more appropriate? cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #105

no it would not. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #108

Hi, it sounds Tien1985 Aug 2013 #202

Call a trans person a he/she? Perhaps not. Iggo Aug 2013 #244

Bradley Manning is a male... NaturalHigh Aug 2013 #109

Good luck with that. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #111

What the hell is your problem? bunnies Aug 2013 #115

Maybe you should keep your comments to yourself then because you are being maddezmom Aug 2013 #119

do you normally ask to see people's dicks or vaginas to decide what gender to refer to them as? La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #120

^^^ This. Iggo Aug 2013 #245

So if a man loses his penis in an accident, does he become a woman? Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #161

So we won't miss you when your failure to follow rules about bigotry here gets you gone. Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #215

I guess asking for a little LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #268

Exactly. Jamastiene Aug 2013 #312

Why are some of you so damn stubborn about this? Why do you *care* so much? nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #283

i'm getting a Popsicle headache... n/t Bully Taw Aug 2013 #112

And "poof", you're gone. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #113

I think your poofer is poofed / nt demwing Aug 2013 #178

Couple of thoughts Hayabusa Aug 2013 #122

How about a neutral word such as IT? donco Aug 2013 #124

it is not neutral. i think you know that. i think everyone knows that, even small children. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #126

Chelsea Manning is not gender neutral gollygee Aug 2013 #146

No. bunnies Aug 2013 #151

Yeah, fuck that and anyone who advocates for it. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #183

You gotta be kidding me! Iggo Aug 2013 #234

I can't believe I've now seen two long-time DUers say that. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #238

Just keeping donco Aug 2013 #246

Illuminating. Iggo Aug 2013 #256

Yeah, it's all just a big fucking laugh for some folks. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #284

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Would you like to be referred to as "it?" Jamastiene Aug 2013 #313

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Nonsense, once again it is a matter of respecting her wishes. Rex Aug 2013 #132

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #135

So that would be a NO, thanks. Rex Aug 2013 #136

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #138

So that would be a NO, again thanks! Rex Aug 2013 #141

I might ? be guilty of still referring to her as him but I swear, it's done out of .... BlueJazz Aug 2013 #131

All this reminds me on "The Jerk". earthside Aug 2013 #134

Perhaps because Manning is a male? George II Aug 2013 #140

Manning is female FreeState Aug 2013 #154

do you need to see whats between this womans legs to call her female? bunnies Aug 2013 #157

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People can be so dumb. bravenak Aug 2013 #152

And quite proud of it too, apparently... nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #286

Habit. crim son Aug 2013 #153

ok. this i buy. that people forget she transitioned. however i am specifically talking about people La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #155

Okay, and I didn't realize that. crim son Aug 2013 #233

Manning has a Y Chromosome perdita9 Aug 2013 #158

But it is not an order, just asking to respect her wishes Rex Aug 2013 #163

But you can order around someone you don't even know FreeState Aug 2013 #164

By your logic nobody has ever "officially made the switch." That's ... convenient for you. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #185

Your post seems self contradictory whopis01 Aug 2013 #240

No it does not LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #271

You have a very good point... defacto7 Aug 2013 #187

i think what has me most bothered, is that the people who are referring to her as him La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #189

Huh? I thought Bradley Manning was a man? Did something change that I missed?? madinmaryland Aug 2013 #188

yes, it did. which if you did not know honestly i was not chastising you. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #190

I don't know much if anything about his (now her) personal life and would rather keep madinmaryland Aug 2013 #193

its not their personal life if they have asked to be called chelsea and to be referred to as female La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #197

Please understand that I do not believe it is a personal lifestyle choice. It is what it is and Pvt madinmaryland Aug 2013 #219

You might want to check your last two posts for gender pronouns... n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #273

Sigh. nt madinmaryland Aug 2013 #274

Do you have any clue what it feels like Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #275

... madinmaryland Aug 2013 #277

I am not a trans* person, Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #292

+1 La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #304

I personally haven't mentioned Manning in months Trajan Aug 2013 #207

and i love your passive aggressive way of defending bigots. that's what du needs more of La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #208

Some people are simply addicted to their own rage Trajan Aug 2013 #227

yeah and some people project their problems onto others. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #232

And some people think they know more about gender issues than, y'know, an actual transgender person. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #287

i just heard about it.. maybe some folks didn't know until just now (i hope) dionysus Aug 2013 #210

Habit? I don't know ... I'm only guessing Raine Aug 2013 #212

Considering I spend nearly a third of my time in the Sports Forum, the name Manning brings madinmaryland Aug 2013 #217

For some maybe, but this thread shows others are clearly behaving like bigots. Marrah_G Aug 2013 #221

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Time An_enlightened_soul Aug 2013 #216

Time, certainly. I have had several friends over the years who have changed their names. enough Aug 2013 #224

I'm sure they'll invoke Rick Warren at some point burnodo Aug 2013 #218

Those of you in this thread that are insisting Chelsea is a man: Marrah_G Aug 2013 #220

+1 nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #288

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Priyanka, thanks for taking the lead on this donheld Aug 2013 #237

My theory is that much of it is Manning specific... Synthesize Aug 2013 #241

I get it that some people disagreed with her leaking of documents. And some considered totodeinhere Aug 2013 #243

The leaking of those documents, Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #247

and my asking people to respect her gender has nothing to do with whether La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #248

And my response wasn't to what you said Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #250

My point stands. No matter what your reasons for opposing her releasing of the documents, don't totodeinhere Aug 2013 #254

And I have a question for you ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #249

Pri certainly got under some people's skins. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #252

"that sort of remark is just stunning and yes, really insensitive." Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #258

You defended that sort of remark by calling Pri an authoritarian. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #262

The OP wasn't about the stupidity of some attitudes Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #281

People who choose not to adapt deserve to be called homophobes or transphobes. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #290

If you honestly believe Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #309

I honestly believe we are enabling suppressing rights for the transgendered Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #314

The issue I have with the OP Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #316

*I* accidentally used the pronoun he/him to refer to Manning and guess what... CreekDog Aug 2013 #320

So because you didn't get attacked Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #322

I may owe you an apologist, can you give me an example of someone accidentally mixing the pronouns CreekDog Aug 2013 #327

Oh ffs Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #328

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Aug 2013 #326

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Aug 2013 #319

Huh? Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #323

oh that was for "Summer", crap! CreekDog Aug 2013 #324

LOL. this whole rant is just laughable. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #257

This isn't about people needing time to change "habits" Union Scribe Aug 2013 #264

What it's really about Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #272

"Please proceed to lock-step behind your leader." NealK Aug 2013 #278

I know, right? nt Union Scribe Aug 2013 #298

are you as surprised as i am to be called your leader? La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #299

well what's your excuse for not knowing? were you out of the country or something? CreekDog Aug 2013 #325

I don't know Manning personally The American Sickle Aug 2013 #251

Excellent thread...for what it says and what it has exposed. The Link Aug 2013 #255

Well.... LuvLoogie Aug 2013 #267

HAHAHA that's so clever and witty! nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #289

Holly came from Miami FLA... LuvLoogie Aug 2013 #295

You just keep on digging that hole. Go ahead. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #305

There's a lot of people who need to look up the definition of the word Phobia. Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #276

both transphobia and homophobia are misnomers when taken literally La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #301

That doesn't make it right. Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #306

no, it really doesn't. words often end up having slight differences from their root words La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #310

Combination of ignorance and homophobia methinks ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #279

yikes! the pronoun police Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #280

Please don't trivialize something Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #294

A dictatorship encroaches, and THIS is the controversy? DerekG Aug 2013 #291

hyperbole vs actual problems La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #302

Mostly it's because conservatives are intolerant bigots and/or find it difficult to accept change. Zorra Aug 2013 #296

i dont think thats accurate. i think transphobia & transmisogyny La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #303

I was using the dictionary definition ~ Zorra Aug 2013 #307