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OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
2. Cass Sunstein, conspiracy entrepreneur.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:30 PM
Aug 2013

Sunstein and Vermeule (2008) describe “an effort to explain some event or practice by
reference to the machinations of powerful people, who have managed to conceal their role” (p. 4)
as a conspiracy theory, a pejorative term which denotes a faulty epistemology, rumors, and
speculation. Furthermore, it is asserted that such analysis overestimates the ability of government
bureaucracies to carry out “sophisticated and secret” (p. 6) plans in an open society. Alternately,
Parenti (2010) quoting Karp (1973) suggested that:

When it can be established that when a number of political acts work in concert to
produce a certain result, the presumption is strong that the actors were aiming at the result
in question. When it can be shown that the actors have an interest in producing these
results, the presumptions become a fair certainty- no conspiracy theory is needed.

Sunstein and Vermeule (2008) assume a well-intentioned government may decide to
defuse conspiracy theories “if and only if social welfare is improved by doing so” (p. 15), yet
they concede that governments themselves may be purveyors of conspiracy theories. Parenti
(1993) suggested the beneficiaries of said social welfare may be an entire class interest.
Following this reasoning, conspiracy theories may be eliminated to prevent exposure of
particular factions, or they may be furnished to enable a certain objective. According to Parenti
(2010), the term conspiracy theory can be used to dismiss: “(1) the idea of a conscious design by
policy makers; (2) a hidden, but knowing intent; (3) a secret plan; (4) a secret interest.”

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Why does this not surprise me? (n/t) spin Aug 2013 #1
Cass Sunstein, conspiracy entrepreneur. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #2
Over 40 yrs ago, U.S. intelligence organizations famously noted Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #34
this is why sometimes higher education is bad, the man has too much time on okieinpain Aug 2013 #3
so how does this work? some posters will not be amateurs like us, but paid pros? CreekDog Aug 2013 #4
"Pros". Lol. dkf Aug 2013 #6
Makes sense. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #9
Why not name the posters you think are 'pros' and report them to the Admin? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #12
you're asking me to predict the future? CreekDog Aug 2013 #14
No--since Cass wrote his proposal in 2008, I'm sure you have at least 5 years of examples to report. msanthrope Aug 2013 #15
You Better Believe It! Fumesucker Aug 2013 #20
FUCKIN OBAMA!! :rolleyes: Come on "a source with knowledge of the matter" this is another sit and uponit7771 Aug 2013 #5
Yep Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #7
Are you here to disrupt a "conspiracy theory"? dkf Aug 2013 #11
Can't, fud and wingers are starting 4 a minute...hard work no doubt uponit7771 Aug 2013 #16
The environment is ripe for conspiracy theory mick063 Aug 2013 #32
Obama's choice of pals is so very revealing about who he really is. forestpath Aug 2013 #8
+1. Also, the choice to repackage the problem instead of fixing it. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #10
+1 840high Aug 2013 #18
Really? I remember Palin saying the same fucking thing in 2008. JTFrog Aug 2013 #19
So all of Obama's horrible picks should get an automatic pass? forestpath Aug 2013 #21
Fuck Sarah Palin. JTFrog Aug 2013 #22
So why the fuck bring her up, JTFrog? Octafish Aug 2013 #24
Well it's a message board, JTFrog Aug 2013 #26
There's no problem unless you do not know you can easily find the "refuge" that you want in the BOG. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #28
Yea, the underground of the underground. n/t JTFrog Aug 2013 #29
Understood. The thing is the right wing and the ultra rich are both served by President Obama. Octafish Aug 2013 #33
You didn't answer my question. Are we not allowed to criticize any crappy Obama picks forestpath Aug 2013 #27
Funny that this type of insinuation only is allowed to be done with Obama. baldguy Aug 2013 #23
COINTELPRO started officially in 1956 DefenseLawyer Aug 2013 #13
My claim to fame: PCIntern Aug 2013 #17
Was there any discussion then of cognitive infiltration? rug Aug 2013 #25
Mmmm...no.... PCIntern Aug 2013 #35
Just in time! They dumped the ban on propaganda BlueToTheBone Aug 2013 #30
K & R AzDar Aug 2013 #31
Yes, but what does this have to do with "transphobia"? Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #36
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