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38. How is warning someone with a gun that you also have a gun helpful

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:48 PM

Aug 2013

in any way? I've seen silly signs like that on residential homes too.

If anything, when it comes to an armed intruder, your best hope is the element of surprise. Don't put all your cards on the table beforehand. Just ask Chris Kyle and Keith Ratliffe how their extensive and highly publicized gun training and expertise worked out for them. That sign guarantees that a gunman will shoot first, negotiate later upon entering the school.

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Arkansas School Posts Sign Warning That Teachers Are Armed, Gunmen Will Be �Met With Deadly Force� [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

Good for them ! nt clarice Aug 2013 #1

Idiocy compounded. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #2

Or pick a different school... Bazinga Aug 2013 #29

You can't give guns to teachers. They can't to be trusted to act responsibly around our children!!! Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #51

It's what Jesus wants! sinkingfeeling Aug 2013 #3

He that lives by the sword, shall die by the sword. denverbill Aug 2013 #7

I was just trying to figure out which cult runs the school Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #4

There's no indication of an affliation. Founded by Perry Black. sinkingfeeling Aug 2013 #8

Some kind of Pentecostals. LeftyMom Aug 2013 #68

The Cult Of The Gun. Iggo Aug 2013 #71

This is the equivalent of Bush's "BRING 'EM ON!" exhortation to the terrorists. bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #5

That's not a warning, that's an invitation. (nt) Paladin Aug 2013 #6

kinda what i thought -- a true psychopath might just read that as a challenge 0rganism Aug 2013 #37

Precisely. (nt) Paladin Aug 2013 #49

Yeah, that's gonna stop someone who was already thinking of committing a mass shooting. winter is coming Aug 2013 #9

Actually, it likely will Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #11

Precisely. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #12

They want notoriety, even if they don't live to see it. They might well still choose winter is coming Aug 2013 #13

Maybe Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #14

I couldn't even tell you the name of "successful" shooters. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #19

As purely a practical matter, does this even make sense? CTyankee Aug 2013 #34

If I was advising them Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #36

I think we should concenrate on making it super difficult for unauthorized visitors to get in, in CTyankee Aug 2013 #40

Of course- the best security is multi-layered. Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #46

but don't you even wonder why it is necessary, in the first place? I mean, really? CTyankee Aug 2013 #48

More evidence of the decay of a civilized society IMO ... Road to "Idiocracy!" n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #59

Probably depends on the capabilities of the individuals involved... Synthesize Aug 2013 #53

I don't know if 40 something G.I.s returning from WW2 to resume teaching even considered that. CTyankee Aug 2013 #54

Likely not... Synthesize Aug 2013 #62

Also people didn't really have a need for such weaponry. I grew up in the late 40s and 50s and CTyankee Aug 2013 #69

Foolish, foolish analysis. louis-t Aug 2013 #27

Ok, of all the mass shootings of the last 2-3 years Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #39

It can't be any less effective than a sign that says " this school is a gun-free zone." Bazinga Aug 2013 #30

Oh look, a teachable moment. rrneck Aug 2013 #10

Isn't that what "gunmen" are looking FOR? EC Aug 2013 #15

No, see my above explanation of the profile of most Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #16

I still think you EC Aug 2013 #18

That's simply not consistent with the profile Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #20

Got 'em all figured out, do you? Think that sign will do the job? Paladin Aug 2013 #21

No, but I have been to classes about it Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #22

In all of that training of yours, were signs like this one ever advocated as a preventative? (nt) Paladin Aug 2013 #24

Not signs directly Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #25

Interesting. (nt) Paladin Aug 2013 #28

And when do they choose to commit suicide? Bazinga Aug 2013 #32

I think they meant to off themselves EC Aug 2013 #33

like school shootings happen because the shooters know they will always gets away with it? Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #17

I agree that sarisataka Aug 2013 #23

Hmmm, that is sort of like wearing a bright red sign that says "kick me" on your behind. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #26

A staff member with a firearm is much more of a match than one without! Bazinga Aug 2013 #31

There was an armed guard at the Columbine school, but he was on "coffee break" when the CTyankee Aug 2013 #41

So effectively, there wasn't an officer there Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #45

well, of course, this is hindsight. We didn't have all these highprofile school shootings back then. CTyankee Aug 2013 #47

I don't always rec a kpete thread pintobean Aug 2013 #35

How is warning someone with a gun that you also have a gun helpful apples and oranges Aug 2013 #38

How many will take this as a challenge? Why the fucking macho shit? n-t Logical Aug 2013 #42

Yup, the sign will just give the real nutcases ideas. gulliver Aug 2013 #67

If that's what they choose to do rl6214 Aug 2013 #43

I can't heaven05 Aug 2013 #44

I know. Unbelievable that so many folks don't realize that this is treating our schools like they CTyankee Aug 2013 #50

It is absolute insanity etherealtruth Aug 2013 #52

We should all save this thread geomon666 Aug 2013 #55

The Gun Enthusiasts will have an excuse ready, when it happens. Paladin Aug 2013 #60

and when it does not Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #61

Your side is going to need excuses a lot more than mine will. And you know it. (nt) Paladin Aug 2013 #66

There are about 55,000,000 students in the U.S. schools grade K-12. ladjf Aug 2013 #56

how many Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #57

I read that the average was about 55,000,000 in grades K - 12. nt ladjf Aug 2013 #72

... RKP5637 Aug 2013 #58

I wonder how long until the first accidental shooting BlueToTheBone Aug 2013 #63

that will never happen, no way steve2470 Aug 2013 #64

Right. My bad. BlueToTheBone Aug 2013 #65

What would Jesus do???? madinmaryland Aug 2013 #70