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BlueStreak

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57. What is this about, anyway?

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:02 PM

Aug 2013

Is this about the insistence that everybody now use the name Chelsea when talking about what BRADLEY Manning did?

That isn't intolerance. It is nonsense on the part of those making those demands. I will not talk about Bradley Manning's actions using some other name. He was BRADLEY Manning when he did his leaking, and that's all there is to it. If I ever get into a discussion about his future life as a woman, I promise I will do my best to refer to her as Chelsea. But if we are talking about the leaking episode, I ain't changing, because that would be completely absurd. Chelsea didn't do that. Bradley did.

If you think that is intolerant, you really need to think that one over from scratch. You risk alienating a lot of people who otherwise would support you.

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Yo, DU. I think we all need to take a deep breath, just for a moment, to remember [View all] 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 OP

K & R. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #1

fur sure!! GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #2

I call bullshit. bunnies Aug 2013 #3

^ Hong Kong Cavalier Aug 2013 #5

+++++++++ uppityperson Aug 2013 #6

+ a gazillion. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #8

A person having a view on LGBT people that don't match you own, but who aren't haters bluestate10 Aug 2013 #16

Yes. I DO treat intolerance with intolerance. bunnies Aug 2013 #23

What is this about, anyway? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #57

Bradley IS Chelsea. bunnies Aug 2013 #59

Show the same tolerance you seek for those whose life experience does not give them GoneFishin Aug 2013 #80

what is, though, the mind of a woman? hfojvt Aug 2013 #81

When your views are bigoted then expect to be called on it Marrah_G Aug 2013 #87

Yep. It's easy for someone to say "don't take it personally" when they don't have to. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #43

Damn straight. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #63

Hear, hear! Thank you very much. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #68

That is over a 1/2 lb of chill. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #4

When it is your life, Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #7

I appreciate your strong feelings, but am curious. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #11

I give pretty wide latitude to people whose existence is being attacked. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #37

Thank you for your thoughtful reply 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #39

Another thing that has added to the tension was the closing of Meta. The bullies are pissed rhett o rick Aug 2013 #52

You likely served on a jury that deleted one of my posts today. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #9

Tell it to my closest friend Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #12

It is easy enough to call a person Ignorant. I favor Manning getting a sex change operation bluestate10 Aug 2013 #29

Who says she wants a sex change operation? Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #40

Thank you for providing clarity and insight emsimon33 Aug 2013 #56

Thank you! Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #58

This is a subject that many don't understand. MADem Aug 2013 #41

I think that the medical community has come far in this determination The empressof all Aug 2013 #73

I think you've made your views well known elsewhere 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #14

The issue that I see is that those who view themselves as tolerant and understanding bluestate10 Aug 2013 #24

Do you view yourself as "tolerant and understanding"? 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #26

I don't discriminate at all against anyone. BTW, do you consider yourself tolerant or understanding? bluestate10 Aug 2013 #33

Listen, you are the one who was complaining about peeps on DU 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #34

You ARE discriminating Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #42

This may be the least self-aware post I've seen on this site in days. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #46

The "viewpoint" that a transgender person is the sex they were born with essentially winter is coming Aug 2013 #31

I am not telling a Transgendered person anything. Have you not understood that already? bluestate10 Aug 2013 #38

I'm assuming this is your post. winter is coming Aug 2013 #48

+1000 - Hoisted on his/her own petard. Good catch! Divernan Aug 2013 #54

What can I say? I'm intolerant of bigotry. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #35

me too. bunnies Aug 2013 #60

So, if aliens abducted you and switched your genitalia, that would make you the opposite gender? winter is coming Aug 2013 #17

At this point the gender/sex issue has been explained to you. So your unwillingness to listen, learn KittyWampus Aug 2013 #18

And I feel sorry for you for thinking bunnies Aug 2013 #19

When you grow up ... GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #25

I'll explain it once more. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #32

Sex is not gender. Sex is not gender. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #66

I remember the LGBT vs Black fight after prop 8 passed in 08. NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #10

There was no such thing outside the minds of those trying to cause such a thing. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #50

You're joking right? NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #65

Sensitivity Training - TBF Aug 2013 #13

Yes I know 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #21

Yeah, "shut the fuck up" TBF Aug 2013 #45

Chill, but also continue "passionately standing for your personal truth" <-- I did say this 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #72

Trans* people - and to a lesser extent allies Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #51

This is DU shenmue Aug 2013 #15

Well this is a "250,000 mgs." dose 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #22

Lack of common sense will destroy us long before our divisiveness. cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #20

250000 mg? bravenak Aug 2013 #27

"Over 1/2 a pound" according to one calculation upstream. ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #28

Cool. bravenak Aug 2013 #30

lol - nice to see that SOMEONE is keeping their sense of humor. ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #36

Somebody's gotta do it. bravenak Aug 2013 #47

KnR. Peace. Hekate Aug 2013 #44

Absolutely! randome Aug 2013 #49

Thank you. An engineer told me: "Intolerance means nothing works." nt Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #53

Intolerance by either side, yes. I would agree with your engineer friend. randome Aug 2013 #83

True, that. GOP talking points are used by Democrats against Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #90

It is important that we argue among ourselves. When we stop that we will be Republicans. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #55

Or, We COULD Just not talk about it at all... Demeter Aug 2013 #61

That would completely miss my point 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #75

Sometimes 99 its a "walk a mile in my shoes" moment Peacetrain Aug 2013 #62

Before you judge someone, walk a mile in their shoes . . . . ET Awful Aug 2013 #67

I needed that Peacetrain Aug 2013 #82

NEVER kpete Aug 2013 #64

I don't think so. I'm not going to take a chill pill. I have seen a couple of posts where liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #69

I resemble that remark 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #77

Not many people are willing to acknowledge their mistakes and try to correct them, so if liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #79

If the internet hurts people's feelings, they shouldn't be on the internet. valerief Aug 2013 #70

Yes!! felix_numinous Aug 2013 #71

Awesome .. I'm totally listening while I post ..thanx. ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #78

I appreciate the need to "chill". I doubt we can agree. I wish we could divide forums differently SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #74

ALAMO!! ALAMO!! Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #76

How about instead people stop making bigoted remarks? Marrah_G Aug 2013 #84

Yes, that. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #85

I can just imagine what our trans DUer's are feeling reading the responses to this thread Marrah_G Aug 2013 #86

That's what I'm getting too. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #89

Thank you. It is _just_ that easy. Heidi Aug 2013 #94

Thanks for your post. But it appears to be hopeless. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #88

"Take a chill pill" = "Back of the bus." (nt) Heidi Aug 2013 #91

It makes me sad that it's being taken that way 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #92

No, not "whatever." There are people in this community who are told Heidi Aug 2013 #93

I have no problem with Chelsea 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #95

I couldn't have said it better, but I'll add to it. tavalon Aug 2013 #96