Do any other folks here get the feeling Obama is TRYING to drive progressives out of the party?

[abbeyco]

74. I don't know and can't answer that - maybe no one can

I said I respect your opinion because I do - we are all allowed to have differing opinions and we should voice them here, frequently and loudly. I wasn't trying to downplay anything or pander to you.

I do understand having principles and and integrity but what is that going to do when we, as a country, have a two party system that excludes any other party and won't allow them to debate and they're relegated only to being on a ballot? Who is going to change that?

I'm not trying to pander to you - for me, I just see this in black and white and, unfortunately no shades of grey/gray are allowed in 'the system'; personally, I wish it were different, then I could really vote my conscience instead of picking between worse and worser. Right now, there's no magic bullet and the Green candidates are so far down the ballot they don't even get a glance; the Progressive party - I don't even know what they truly stand for as there's no one articulating their stance.

How could/would you change the system so that we could have a truly Progressive candidate? It takes years of groundwork and volumes of discontented voters to get that kind of party to be relevant to the voting public at large. Are you willing to put in that work or simply sit back and criticize - there's a difference between 'do-ers' and 'be-ers' and most folks don't want to get involved but simply bitch about everything.

If you have a plan and could put it in place, I'd definitely listen...until then, I'm like a lot of others - voting for the lesser of two evils and I'd still cast my vote for our current President if we voted today - I abhor the possible options of Obama not winning.

I wish you luck in your efforts and search...and for now, my votes are prefixed with a D and never an R- I don't want those fuckers anywhere near me or dealing with legislation that has anything to do with me.