Did I just stop by DU and find people AGAINST military action on Syria?

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66. The Holocaust was not carried out during a civil war in Germany. How many civil wars do we join in?

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Africa has atrocities going on that far surpass what is going on Syria and have been going on for decades. Flat out genocide, but unnoticed by many westerners.

This has been going on for two years now. I've read disputing reports of who is the most evil in this civil war. And yes, Assad has the Sarin gas and has used it, and may use it again:

'Assad has enough sarin to wipe out Damascus'

J Post 05/24/2013

Exiled Syrian chemical arms scientist discusses Assad's arsenal, says he has used small quantities of sarin to stop rebel advances.

The regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad has enough of the nerve gas sarin to "eradicate the whole of Damascus, Homs, Hama and Aleppo," a former Syrian chemical weapons scientist told Al Jazeera on Friday.

"If the regime is to fire a Scud-B with a chemical warhead filled with sarin, the missile would create a chemical cloud in the atmosphere that is 3km long and 500m wide, which could be fatal to all people under it," the scientist, that asked to remain anonymous, said.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Assad-has-enough-sarin-to-wipe-off-Damascus-Aleppo-Homs-314290

This is happening, too. And I doubt this is the only rebel group and it has a warning, so skip the video and pictures:

Syrian Rebel Abu Sakkar Filmed Eating Soldier's Lung Has No Regrets & Promises More Slaughter (GRAPHIC VIDEO, PICTURES)

By Sara C Nelson 15/05/2013

...The clip, which was verified by Human Rights Watch (HRW), showed Khalid al-Hamad (who is also known as Abu Sakkar) hacking into the man’s body and removing organs before raising the lung to his lips.

He is heard saying: “I swear to God we will eat your hearts and your livers, you soldiers of Bashar the dog,” to offscreen cheering...

The British Prime Minister earlier confirmed nerve agent Sarin appeared to have been used during the two-year civil war.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights recorded March as the bloodiest month of the conflict so far, with more than 6,000 people killed, including more than 500 women and children.

So far the Observatory has recorded more than 80,000 deaths but believes the real number of those killed to be much higher. The UN says more than 70,000 people have died since the uprising began in March 2011.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/15/syrian-rebel-abu-sakkar-filmed-eating-soldiers-lung-no-regrets-more-slaughter-graphic-video-pictures_n_3277239.html

Other rebel atrocities are detailed at links below the story with different figures from last year:

Andrei Arbashe, Christian Taxi-Driver 'Beheaded By Syrian Rebels & Fed To Dogs'

By Sara C Nelson 31/12/2012

...More than 45,000 people have been killed in Syria since protests against President Bashar Assad's regime began in March 2011...

Al Arabiya points out Western support has so far been limited to "non-lethal military equipment" and that Western powers are "until now hesitant on whether to supply the opposition fighters with weapons..."

In August, the Human Rights Watch accused the Free Syria Army of committing potential war crimes as videos emerged of rebels "executing" supporters of President Assad in the city of Aleppo.

HRW's Middle East deputy director Nadim Houry said the executions could be viewed as a war crime: "Intentionally killing anyone, even a shabiha [a member of Assad's armed gangs], once he is outside of combat is a war crime, regardless of how horrible the person may have been. "As the opposition gains more territory, it is important to hold them to the same standard that we would apply to all sides..."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/31/andrei-arbashe-christian-taxi-driver-beheaded-syrian-rebels-dogs_n_2387421.html

There appears to be some religion at play, even with different sects of Islam killing each other.

Who do you suggest we pick out among all these groups to support? And where are the European powers? Isn't this their neighbor? Why not Russia, their long-term ally?

And really, who is funding this on both sides or rather several sides? Is it a religious civil war, a proxy war for competing economic powers, or what? Has anyone invited us in?

There are stories of rescue operations for children being carried out, that won't change the people waging the civil war.

If the UN says to go in, I guess it might happen. But this is not WW2. We are not at war with Syria or the rebels. I see the humanitarian appeal.

Thinking logistically, what are you suggesting needs to happen? An open ended commitment for another ten years or more of all out warfare? An occupying army?

As awful as this is, and it truly is, I can't see how this would be done. Or if we should. But I am sure that if Obama agrees to go into Syria, the long knives will come out on the right and the left just as they did with Libya.

I can just see the articles of impeachment now. Not that the GOP hasn't had those written up since 2008. There have been websites created about it, they never stop. They insert phrases from the Constitution to make it all sound noble and official.

By this time they should have fill-in-the-blank forms ready with charges:

Benghazi! Taxation without representation! Gun confiscation! Same sex marriage! Obamacare! Wiretapping! Or whatever else they think the benighted masses will fall for.