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muriel_volestrangler

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17. I also wonder if they haven't said AD when it should be BC
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 07:38 AM
Feb 2012

The newspaper article says it was dug up 'last year', but it was actually found in 2010:

However, it is the wooden finds I will return to, which included fragments of shaped hazel rods (possible hazel uprights for a wattle fence or the supports for a clay tower funace; flat and shaped pieces of wood; fragments from a possible wooden bowl; and most impressive of all the wooden bridge from a musical instrument......most likely a lyre.

If this is indeed the bridge from a lyre, and it does look almost identical to similar finds from these instruments from Anglo-Saxon graves such as Sutton Hoo (although these finds are from a thousand years later), then it would be one of the earliest finds from one of these instruments in Britain. The deposits from which the bridge was recovered date to around 450 to 550BC, which may fit nicely with the tuning pegs recovered in a cache from Bone Passage (within the cave in depositsalso dating to around 500BC). A tentative reconstruction of the bridge fragment would indicate a six-stringed instrument, while the cache of tuning pegs also contained six pegs.

http://www.high-pasture-cave.org/index.php/news/comments/181/


It's possible that some dating after that moved it to 500AD, but, since the article says "we have asked experts to study it", that implies there hasn't been a careful study of it yet.

The Sutton Hoo bridge, and a reconstruction of the instrument:



Note that the clarsach you show in another reply doesn't appear to have a bridge.

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Oldest instrument is dug up in Skye cave [View all] MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 OP
I thought it said Skype cave The Straight Story Feb 2012 #1
And after 1500 years Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #2
Its a Gibson. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #23
Yeah, but does it go to 11? Fawke Em Feb 2012 #32
Brings tears to my eyes. mia Feb 2012 #3
Me too.. nenagh Feb 2012 #8
Ditto. Little Star Feb 2012 #28
Rec because I wish that the news would be filled with articles like this mia Feb 2012 #4
Oh, so do I. I don't feel watching asjr Feb 2012 #5
Peaceful news Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #6
A burnt fragment of a stringed instrument? trusty elf Feb 2012 #7
Stringed instruments were common 3000BC / Egypt & Sumer Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 #9
It is probably the ancestor of what we call "Clàrsach" MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #13
Isn't "Rush" the official band of DU3? Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #10
The Chipmunks on acid... immoderate Feb 2012 #29
Arrrggghhh - Newspaper history intaglio Feb 2012 #11
Generally I agree with your remarks on newspaper history BUT MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #12
I also wonder if they haven't said AD when it should be BC muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #17
Thanks for the research MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #19
and Ancient Greece Crabby Appleton Feb 2012 #33
Why did I guess this was Scotland? boppers Feb 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #15
I'm not sure I get you? MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #16
It's a stereotype. boppers Feb 2012 #18
Theres no mention of the harp being invented in Scotland. MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #20
Point --------> boppers Feb 2012 #21
Well since most groups blow their own trumpet, I doubt very much that Scots should be exempt nt MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #22
du rec. nt xchrom Feb 2012 #24
Well I know what my ancestors were doing a few thousand years ago XemaSab Feb 2012 #25
"The only instruments" should include drums, in my opinion LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #26
And Keith Richards is happy.... whistler162 Feb 2012 #27
kick MichaelMcGuire Feb 2012 #30
Belongs to the world's oldest rock star> leveymg Feb 2012 #31
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