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XemaSab

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178. Birds have gone extinct due to cat predation

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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:42 PM

Aug 2013

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It is not okay for cats to kill all the neighborhood birds. [View all] XemaSab Aug 2013 OP

Thank you for posting this. It needs to be said, loudly and often. Glorfindel Aug 2013 #1

Forget the birds... ileus Aug 2013 #2

My neigborhood is.. one_voice Aug 2013 #20

They're not as cute when all those bunnies eat your garden Warpy Aug 2013 #137

yes, but coyotes are often indigenous species, feral housecats are not CreekDog Aug 2013 #24

No, and neither is the primate Homo sapiens sapiens - except in sub-Saharan Africa panzerfaust Aug 2013 #78

ah, humans have disrupted the environment, therefore we do nothing about feral or outdoor cats CreekDog Aug 2013 #79

Songbirds are at great risk. Bunnies aren't, except in your neighborhood, pnwmom Aug 2013 #167

I do wildlife rehab and I cannot tell you how many bunnies and squirrels I get in Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #192

Hate if ya' want, but I let my dogs chase 'em. Myrina Aug 2013 #3

The itty bitty kitty committee just added you NuclearDem Aug 2013 #6

lol. nt clarice Aug 2013 #27

What Clarice said nt freedom fighter jh Aug 2013 #77

My cat (now deceased) once chased the neighbor's dog off our lawn. City Lights Aug 2013 #36

From a young age, I learned the "proper" way to keep cats as "pets" Volaris Aug 2013 #48

My vet will not declaw cats leftynyc Aug 2013 #50

I wonder what kitty thinks about that when it happens lol.. Volaris Aug 2013 #57

There are many ways to prevent cats from scratching up furniture. lapislzi Aug 2013 #88

I've always had cats leftynyc Aug 2013 #101

Just get a scratching "post" or whatever and teach your cat to use it. cui bono Aug 2013 #164

Our cats are indoor only and we trained our cats with catnip on those cardboard loungers, MerryBlooms Aug 2013 #171

Many cats that have their claws removed turn into biters. City Lights Aug 2013 #67

I am against removing their claws. City Lights Aug 2013 #66

When i was a kid we had a cat that was declawed, front and back. Jenoch Aug 2013 #86

It hurts like hell. City Lights Aug 2013 #94

My parents had a cat that was strictly an indoor cat. Jenoch Aug 2013 #100

Declawing is very bad Marrah_G Aug 2013 #97

Not to mention, cruel. bunnies Aug 2013 #132

+1 nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #158

No! It is cruel to declaw a cat. They chop off part of their toes! cui bono Aug 2013 #163

I would have done the same thing. Myrina Aug 2013 #70

Odds are they trained it to poop on your lawn. /nt Ash_F Aug 2013 #93

So ask yourself what is wrong with you Hissyspit Aug 2013 #180

I can't stand cat haters. Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #182

My little terrorists have the mighty red dot to kill. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #4

which is the greater threat: cats or deforestation, over development & pesticides? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #5

I afraid we're well pass the point.... daleanime Aug 2013 #10

Add to that mockmonkey Aug 2013 #21

I always knew Bill Gates hated birds N/T Revanchist Aug 2013 #75

Windows 8...my bird n/t mockmonkey Aug 2013 #114

so there's a bigger problem, so we'll ignore this one? CreekDog Aug 2013 #25

Very few songbirds near where I live OnlinePoker Aug 2013 #152

Which is the bigger problem: largescale mass murder in Syria, or someone stabbing you to death? Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #45

Guns In America otohara Aug 2013 #105

Choose one; walking, or chewing gum Scootaloo Aug 2013 #51

Which is the easiest to address (ie low-hanging fruit)? NickB79 Aug 2013 #58

A worm or bug would say it is okay with him cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #7

SWEET! we haven't had this thread in a while snooper2 Aug 2013 #8

My black and white cat LWolf Aug 2013 #9

There are programs that capture feral cats and provide them to folks who need barn cats. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #23

I know about the programs for feral cats. LWolf Aug 2013 #31

It's extremely unlikely that birds are taking out adult cats. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #33

It's not unlikely. I've seen it. LWolf Aug 2013 #39

Again, extremely unlikely. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #54

Coyotes still stalk the perimeter LWolf Aug 2013 #63

A raptor doesn't have to carry away a cat NickB79 Aug 2013 #60

But not all cats kill birds. I don't think mine ever did. Mice, yeah, but not birds. raccoon Aug 2013 #11

Put a Bell on them. bahrbearian Aug 2013 #12

Amen!!!!!! You can do it as a neighbor - a breakaway collar with bell. Peregrine Took Aug 2013 #35

Thats fine if there are no predators around... Ohio Joe Aug 2013 #193

Reminds me of the silly people who try to turn their dogs into vegans Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #13

... progressoid Aug 2013 #44

All 3 of our cats are indoor cats. wild bird Aug 2013 #14

13 indoor cats mockmonkey Aug 2013 #22

I don't like cats, but last year I had a rat problem RebelOne Aug 2013 #49

My cat protects us from big cockroaches and poison centipedes. Bonobo Aug 2013 #15

You know laundry_queen Aug 2013 #153

put a bell on that cat. n/t EC Aug 2013 #16

Mine Has 4 Bells & A Walking Jacket otohara Aug 2013 #123

Unreccing for crap science... joeybee12 Aug 2013 #17

Exactly. hamsterjill Aug 2013 #34

'biggest threat to birds' grahampuba Aug 2013 #42

Yes, debunked I say!!!! hamsterjill Aug 2013 #47

Alley Cat Allies is not a reliable source XemaSab Aug 2013 #172

It is as reliable a source as I need. hamsterjill Aug 2013 #191

Kill ALL the neighborhood birds? joeybee12 Aug 2013 #116

Ditto! nt City Lights Aug 2013 #37

So if car accidents kill 33,500 people a year XemaSab Aug 2013 #38

ALL the birds in the neighborhood...ALL the birds... joeybee12 Aug 2013 #113

I didn't write the OP XemaSab Aug 2013 #122

It is not crap science dbackjon Aug 2013 #40

People can't even nail down the number of birds on the planet any closer than 200-400 billion snooper2 Aug 2013 #62

BILLIONS? joeybee12 Aug 2013 #112

Yes, BILLIONS dbackjon Aug 2013 #117

No it's not crap science, except to the wilfully uninformed Ocelot Aug 2013 #73

You "see" joeybee12 Aug 2013 #110

You...sound....real....scientific... right...yeah... Ocelot Aug 2013 #150

Can we discuss both? WTF? n-t Logical Aug 2013 #156

The OP didn't say they were the biggest problem. joshcryer Aug 2013 #166

Yep. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #18

People are the problem, not the cats. i know you know this but your title Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #19

if she thinks it's the cat's fault, why is she posting to convince cat owners? CreekDog Aug 2013 #26

yeah, you know .. like those deer crossing signs Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #29

Are you suggesting we need to put up "No Bird Eating" signs for the cats? Ian David Aug 2013 #32

absolutely - The cats need to take responsibility for their actions Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #46

Well then we need to provide public education for cats to make sure they can all read cui bono Aug 2013 #165

too many cats are already ensnared by a culture of dependency Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #173

two cats can become 14 million cats in just eight years, lol! reformist2 Aug 2013 #28

lmao! bunnies Aug 2013 #53

Keep Frankie away from your garden with Rue (Ruta graveolens) PADemD Aug 2013 #30

I agree. MarianJack Aug 2013 #41

Stray cats don't make it long in my neighborhood. The Link Aug 2013 #43

Outdoor cats in my neighborhood have a tendency to vanish Ocelot Aug 2013 #80

If someone stole my cat and brought it to the shelter... bunnies Aug 2013 #52

What the author did was perfectly acceptable (and wasn't stealing) NickB79 Aug 2013 #65

My cat is an indoor cat. bunnies Aug 2013 #68

She stated she notified the owners multiple times previously NickB79 Aug 2013 #82

Yeah. She left generic notices on everyone doors. bunnies Aug 2013 #129

Bullshit. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #74

How thoughtful NickB79 Aug 2013 #89

There's plenty of information throughout this thread Hissyspit Aug 2013 #95

Nah, I have better things to do NickB79 Aug 2013 #103

Even if you were a horrible pet owner that didn't control your pet? bluestate10 Aug 2013 #108

So anyone that lets their cat outside is a horrible pet owner? bunnies Aug 2013 #130

Someone did that to one of my cats? Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #128

Thank you! bunnies Aug 2013 #131

+1. nt DevonRex Aug 2013 #138

Being taken to the shelter is one of the better outcomes XemaSab Aug 2013 #174

In that they were spayed/neutered as kittens Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #187

We have a birdbath to help feed the cats. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #55

Be sure to read the article to the end! Coyotl Aug 2013 #56

I should have known this thread would be of interest to you XemaSab Aug 2013 #175

Nice to see all the cat haters on here. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #59

Riiiiigggghhhhttttt. NickB79 Aug 2013 #69

lololol!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #125

I think so too laundry_queen Aug 2013 #154

.... awww, and there are just so FEW cat LOVERS on the internets, right? Myrina Aug 2013 #72

You have already stated upthread that you hate fucking hate cats HangOnKids Aug 2013 #135

Yeah. Why *is* it so much more acceptable to "hate" cats? nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #160

I love my dogs XemaSab Aug 2013 #176

"Cats=invasive species" is a misconception. alp227 Aug 2013 #61

That's a poor argument NickB79 Aug 2013 #64

Actually, it seems cats are being selected against hunting. caseymoz Aug 2013 #71

isn't a cat killing birds its natural instinct? GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #76

True, but a bird in every cat's dish = EXTINCTION. Can't have that. nt alp227 Aug 2013 #81

I don't believe that for a second. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #85

Birds have gone extinct due to cat predation XemaSab Aug 2013 #178

In their native habitat as wild animals, yes NickB79 Aug 2013 #98

mother nature will straighten it all out. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #104

Not so long as humans actively intervene NickB79 Aug 2013 #107

mother nature doesn't take shit from anyone. She will do what she pleases. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #111

I once witnessed a flock of birds dive bombing a cat in my neighborhood. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #118

that cat must have done something to piss those birds off! GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #120

yeah, like the flu virus mitchtv Aug 2013 #115

so flu killing humans = cats killing birds in your eyes? GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #119

your point "it's nature" why worry? mitchtv Aug 2013 #126

question is, do you? GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #140

Yes, but cats are an introduced species. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #127

mother nature will overcome. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #141

All life on Earth will eventually be snuffed out. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #148

BOOM! Truth Bomb! GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #149

Do you know how many species went extinct when humans came to the Americas? XemaSab Aug 2013 #181

What cats actually do wryter2000 Aug 2013 #83

I told her "Your obsession with cats has gone too far and I want you to go!" Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #84

Bwahaha! nt valerief Aug 2013 #91

I have an indoor/outdoor cat eilen Aug 2013 #87

Aha! Youre one of those horrible cat owners I read about upthread. bunnies Aug 2013 #134

Yeah, guilty. She yowls to go out. It's not like I throw her out. eilen Aug 2013 #145

lol. I know what you mean. bunnies Aug 2013 #146

all owned cats should be indoor MFM008 Aug 2013 #151

You are not the boss of me LOL eilen Aug 2013 #195

i love my cat therefore i would never let her outside. its better for her and the environment La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #90

Why do you hate cats so much?!?! NickB79 Aug 2013 #106

i have heaven05 Aug 2013 #92

Nice read. Ash_F Aug 2013 #96

Can't blame them for millions of years of evolution. Rex Aug 2013 #99

My cat hunts lizards! Stainless Aug 2013 #102

Watch you cat. It may hunt lizards, but one day it may try to hunt the pit vipers that bluestate10 Aug 2013 #121

Umm, it's what they do. They hunt. It's in their DNA. Bake Aug 2013 #109

So, by your logic it is ok if larger predators hunt cats while they are outside? nt bluestate10 Aug 2013 #124

Animals are going to do what they do. It's nature, not logic. Bake Aug 2013 #136

I'm reasonably sure that my cat is cognizant of other creatures eilen Aug 2013 #147

Substitute "people" for cats and you might be on to something... dogknob Aug 2013 #133

This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex Aug 2013 #139

Fuck Crista Worthy; I would prefer Frankie as a neighbor Tom Ripley Aug 2013 #142

+1000 JCMach1 Aug 2013 #144

Cats are a part of the 'human' ecosystem... take them away and the rodent population JCMach1 Aug 2013 #143

Mine are kept inside. LisaL Aug 2013 #155

BS. NaturalHigh Aug 2013 #157

Nonsense. Domestic cats do not have larger animals that hunt them. And ... Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #168

Do you think cats should be taken care of by humans? XemaSab Aug 2013 #183

It is the responsibility ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #159

All pet cats belong indoors. Period. alarimer Aug 2013 #161

As a biologist it's amazing how ignorant you are. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #179

Are you a biologist? XemaSab Aug 2013 #186

So how about euthanizing the invasive species known as homo sapien when they venture into non-native Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #185

We have lots of wildlife where I live including birds and bunnies. I cringe whever I see cats and liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #162

Oh well do like my asshole neighbor did and put out some water with antifreeze in it cherish44 Aug 2013 #169

Animal control in my county loans out traps madville Aug 2013 #170

Arm the birds. gulliver Aug 2013 #177

I'm so fucking sick of these anti-cat threads on DU. Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #184

How is asking people to keep their cats inside XemaSab Aug 2013 #188

That's a different thread topic. Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #189

How about the invasive and ubiquitous African Rock Pigeon The Second Stone Aug 2013 #190

A shame the article never even tries to address the claim of it's title Ohio Joe Aug 2013 #194