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uponit7771

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40. ****DEAR MR GORE, The blanket surveillance by the gov isn't all secret and never has been****
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:03 AM
Aug 2013

Please don't believe the hype sir, 95% of this whole issue is about what fear a relative few can stoke up about the government and what abilities computers do an don't have.

I drive on the highway and cameras look at where my car is going all the time, theirs not proof that they are looking into the car for anything

The digital highways are little difference, they're public...it easier to look at where the traffic is going but to presume the government is looking INTO all the traffic, in this case data, when there's no solid proof that it's widespread or continuous is what the masters of sophistry are pushing.

The stoking is the equivalent of the second X-Men movie where the public was afraid of them because the mutants had these powers and they didn't, there were a few of the stoking up fear.... a few of the mutants and humans that wanted war in the first place.

We need to look at the 1976 law again, make sure the breadth of what can be surveyed today is appropriate, I don't think it is... it's like a cat chasing billions of mice tails to no where.

All gov isn't all bad at all times, there's a generation that has grown up with not only seeing the need for gov but have seen where gov can help...and this gov = bad meme doesn't make sense

thx for reading Mr President

Regards

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Yep. They literally changed the course of history, and got away with it. Just like they did with silvershadow Aug 2013 #21
crown jewel alert... crown jewel alert... nebenaube Aug 2013 #61
I will repeat what I have said all along. mick063 Aug 2013 #2
NSA probably has on file what Pelosi and everyone really think. Octafish Aug 2013 #10
And former President Carter: "America has no functioning democracy." woo me with science Aug 2013 #36
With electronic voting, does it matter? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #53
As they are unable to determine who placed the Downwinder Aug 2013 #3
Buzzy Krongard probably had that particular tape erased. Octafish Aug 2013 #6
That's still the elephant in the room Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #8
Says who? I say we start talking about it. silvershadow Aug 2013 #23
It may smell like a zoo johnnyreb Aug 2013 #25
K&R PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #5
J. Edgar Hoover with Supercomputers Octafish Aug 2013 #15
I think I remember reading this when it was newly published. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #16
K&R! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #9
Edward Snowden’s Brave Choice Octafish Aug 2013 #18
K&R Ocelot Aug 2013 #11
The U.S. National Security State Octafish Aug 2013 #22
Yes it is Al, yes it is... nradisic Aug 2013 #12
Couldn't be more like 1984 if they appointed Gen Clapper to investigate himself. Octafish Aug 2013 #24
It's just you, Al. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #13
Your sources, please? Octafish Aug 2013 #17
Damn your eyes, I'll never reveal my sources. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #19
k and r panader0 Aug 2013 #14
Meat Ax or Scalpel? Octafish Aug 2013 #28
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #20
Three Illusory "Investigations" of the NSA Spying Are Unable to Succeed Octafish Aug 2013 #32
But, as a protection racket it pays well. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #26
Outgoing FBI director uses fear-mongering to defend spying programs Octafish Aug 2013 #33
What's outrageous is a government that demands full disclosure from it's citizens,... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #27
That's not just outrageous, it's a recipe for disaster. winter is coming Aug 2013 #30
Any politician that doesn't see that is too isolated in the DC bubble.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #31
SECRET Government Is a One-Way Mirror. Octafish Aug 2013 #34
He might not "have invented the internet," but he certainly understands it well enough! :) Pholus Aug 2013 #29
Al Gore Tears Into NSA Defenders: 'We Don’t Do Dial Groups On The Bill Of Rights' Octafish Aug 2013 #35
He certainly should try to! nt Pholus Aug 2013 #37
Good God that's a wonderful idea! Gore. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #59
It's Not Secret otohara Aug 2013 #38
You got that right. Octafish Aug 2013 #52
THANK YOU, former President Gore! Th1onein Aug 2013 #39
An Open Letter to My Former NSA Colleagues Octafish Aug 2013 #44
Thank YOU, Octafish, for educating me, and others. Th1onein Aug 2013 #48
****DEAR MR GORE, The blanket surveillance by the gov isn't all secret and never has been**** uponit7771 Aug 2013 #40
Nothing like missing the point. Octafish Aug 2013 #42
Nothing like spewing more libertarian sophistry surveillance doesnt mean spying..two difference word uponit7771 Aug 2013 #45
Wow. A minor talking point and a cheap smear. Octafish Aug 2013 #47
NOT a minor talking point a HUGE difference...surveillance is not spying. Boston would uponit7771 Aug 2013 #49
Keep digging. Octafish Aug 2013 #50
Holy Cow! That might be one of funniest things I have ever seen on DU HangOnKids Aug 2013 #57
Flushbo. Octafish Aug 2013 #58
"the equivalent of the second X-Men movie where..." Union Scribe Aug 2013 #46
cultists only like him when they can blame Nader: what Gore actually does and says is beyond them MisterP Aug 2013 #41
Amazing, isn't it? Octafish Aug 2013 #56
Al Gore always hated Obama... 99Forever Aug 2013 #43
He's a ratscrewing paulite libertarian. Octafish Aug 2013 #54
Kick... AzDar Aug 2013 #51
In part I blame the sheep who were/are willing to stand in airport lines while getting free feel-ups AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #55
K&R'd immediately upon reading Gore's tweet....but snappyturtle Aug 2013 #60
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