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Junkdrawer

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Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:55 AM Aug 2013

Remember the British Intelligence/Yellow Cake controversy? [View all]

"Sixteen Words" controversy in 2003 State of the Union

In his January 2003 State of the Union speech, U.S. President George W. Bush said, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."[2] This single sentence is now known as "the Sixteen Words."[3] The administration later conceded that evidence in support of the claim was inconclusive and stated, "These sixteen words should never have been included." The administration attributed the error to the CIA.[4] In mid-2003, the U.S. government declassified the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate, which contained a dissenting opinion published by the U.S. Department of State stating that the intelligence connecting Niger to Saddam Hussein was "highly suspect," primarily because State Department's intelligence agency analysts did not believe that Niger would be likely to engage in such a transaction due to a French consortium which maintained close control over the Nigerien uranium industry.[5]

According to The Washington Post, when occupying troops found no evidence of a current nuclear program, the statement and how it came to be in the speech became a focus for critics in Washington and foreign capitals to press the case that the White House manipulated facts to take the United States to war. The Post reported, "Dozens of interviews with current and former intelligence officials and policymakers in the United States, Britain, France and Italy show that the Bush administration disregarded key information available at the time showing that the Iraq-Niger claim was highly questionable." [6] With the release of the 2002 NIE report, the Bush administration was criticized for including the statement in the State of the Union despite CIA and State Department reports questioning its veracity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries


Well....

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President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron are “both gravely concerned by the attack that took place in Damascus on Wednesday and the increasing signs that this was a significant chemical weapons attack carried out by the Syrian regime against its own people," spokesperson for Cameron said Saturday.

"They reiterated that significant use of chemical weapons would merit a serious response from the international community and both have tasked officials to examine all the options," the spokesperson said.

A senior Obama administration official told The Associated Press Sunday there is "very little doubt" that a chemical weapon was involved.

British newspaper, the Sunday Telegraph, said Cameron plans to put forward a “game-changing” resolution to the United National Security Council that would give the Syrian government an ultimatum to disarm.

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http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/25/20179917-us-action-would-inflame-the-middle-east-syria-warns-as-white-house-weighs-options?lite


When in doubt, quote the Brits...
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Is it just me, or is this place very quiet this morning? Like we're in mourning. leveymg Aug 2013 #1
I think that loss of hope is going to be hard Hydra Aug 2013 #12
It has a "Guns of August" feel about it - a lot of unintended consequences and a wider, longer, leveymg Aug 2013 #13
It's not good Hydra Aug 2013 #17
I agree Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #31
doubt it--the "at least he's put no boots on the ground" crowd will just change the mantra to MisterP Aug 2013 #35
We don't put our 'boots on the ground' if possible. We use proxy armies, our dictator sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #38
Lost illusions. Good way to put it. I agree. Th1onein Aug 2013 #40
Ahh...the "Ultimatum to Disarm." Saddam tried to comply.... KoKo Aug 2013 #2
This time for sure.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #3
Where's the advantage in disarming. Exactly. Saddam disarmed. reusrename Aug 2013 #41
this isn't a very good comparison- unless you think that cali Aug 2013 #4
Sorry, I don't believe Assad is that stupid. Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #5
conducted by whom? And based on what don't you think that Assad is that "stupid" cali Aug 2013 #6
That's just it. The US is still uncertain who did it. The Brits, however, are sure it was Assad. Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #7
that still doesn't answer the question: Who do you think conducted a "false flag" cali Aug 2013 #8
Let's just say that Larry Wilkerson has accused Israel of such false flag operations in Syria.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #9
seems ridiculous to me cali Aug 2013 #14
Wilkerson doesn't stike me as a "blame the Jews for all the ills of the world" type... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #29
It's not even clear whether it was artillery or a rocket attack. leveymg Aug 2013 #19
We would be stupid to not confirm every detail before we get sucked into it. leveymg Aug 2013 #15
We'd be stupid... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #33
Yup leveymg Aug 2013 #34
i agree...bad analogy Supersedeas Aug 2013 #25
I'm putting my neck on the line malaise Aug 2013 #10
So you think Medecins Sans Frontiere is in on perpetrating a hoax? cali Aug 2013 #18
I don't think there are too many who are still doubting that people were killed by some sort of gas. leveymg Aug 2013 #20
isn't that just precisely what I said? cali Aug 2013 #36
Let me put it this way malaise Aug 2013 #32
you really, really need how to employ some critical thinking. cali Aug 2013 #37
malaise, you'll want to read this.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #39
There was a chemical attack, the only question is by whom. All sides agree there was an attack stevenleser Aug 2013 #21
Yea ...the USA used chemicals to attack too. Who's going to tell us to disarm? L0oniX Aug 2013 #27
Not to mention Agent Orange. zeemike Aug 2013 #30
I'm going to say it was a false flag operation by foriegn entities. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #22
I wonder if we'll get another David Kelly whistleblow + "suicide" out of this Hydra Aug 2013 #11
Now that you mention it, not many have stepped forward since then. Octafish Aug 2013 #16
+1 nashville_brook Aug 2013 #23
Yes, a coincidence, I'm certain n/t Hydra Aug 2013 #24
yeah, remember heaven05 Aug 2013 #28
Didn't we use phosphor on Faluja and didn't we drop cluster bombs? So who will tell us to disarm? L0oniX Aug 2013 #26
Even If... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #42
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