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Zen Democrat

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95. Jesus. I read Chomsky, I watch Chomsky videos, I enjoy Chomsky.

Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:52 PM

Aug 2013

But I also understand that Chomsky has hated every Democratic president since FDR. He hated Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton and now Obama. He likes Republicans better because they rile up the left. Chomsky has his place, but he's not pragmatic or compromising and you can't run a country like that.

He's always raled against any internal conspiracy in the death of JFK because he believes Kennedy was so much of a corporate tool that they wouldn't have killed him.

Chomsky is not always rational, btw. But he's a brilliant voice. I'm more of a Howard Zinn girl. Will love him forever. Howard didn't even believe in politics and wrote that all elections are meaningless. That's the purist voice, but we have to at least try to govern ourselves and be balanced.

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It's clear to me that the first African-American POTUS is a catalytic president. [View all] Zen Democrat Aug 2013 OP

Very silly post cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #1

So it's silly to post my opinion? Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #3

When your opinion is silly... your opinion is silly. cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #6

Of course not demwing Aug 2013 #7

Much will depend on whether he leads us into another illegal, unfounded and very cruel war. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #101

NO. Very sound, logical OP. You don't like it. I do. The OP hit the mark. nt bluestate10 Aug 2013 #36

I appreciated his post. Most of yours are churlish and useless Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #72

Here are the real world benefits that he has brought to our family grantcart Aug 2013 #81

let's deconstruct: cali Aug 2013 #2

Yes, it is. We should be up in arms about the NSA. We should be calling our Senators and Reps. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #5

OK, fine. I agree cali Aug 2013 #9

My Congressional delgation has been up in arms about it, Wyden for one and the administration Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #10

"Your only option now seems to be Rand Paul" MelungeonWoman Aug 2013 #11

Such bullcrap.... davidn3600 Aug 2013 #14

The Dems couldnt get a decent stimulus bill to address unemployment because of the filibuster. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #16

Read the person you are replying to's post again Aerows Aug 2013 #30

nope. he's actually got great points you are too blind with hate to see Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #73

What's clear MFrohike Aug 2013 #4

good post. n/t cali Aug 2013 #13

Did you read what I wrote? Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #15

I read it MFrohike Aug 2013 #28

The Kennedy Library released recordings of critical meeting in the past decade, Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #34

Whew MFrohike Aug 2013 #41

Actually those who qualify for subsidies under the ACA won't be any better off dflprincess Aug 2013 #67

That's a problem MFrohike Aug 2013 #69

Hate is hate and I lump haters into one cagegory. It's called: Haters Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #88

Has it? MFrohike Aug 2013 #97

So what do you call the Tea Party. Dislikers? Informed critics? Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #98

Self-defeating morons, generally MFrohike Aug 2013 #100

so one vote for cynical poster on DU. check. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #74

Cynicism, haha MFrohike Aug 2013 #83

Once again, a top notch post malokvale77 Aug 2013 #102

K & R....especially for the undeserved flames. n/t jaysunb Aug 2013 #8

so you believe the President is responsible for....nothing? cali Aug 2013 #12

My God people are making some real assumptions here. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #21

glad to hear it. too bad you don't grasp how your op could lead to cali Aug 2013 #24

The last president who stood up openly against the War Machine was killed in Dallas. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #32

He doesn't stand up because he could get shot? tblue Aug 2013 #33

Nullification has been in process for the last five years. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #37

What is "nullification"? Getting killed? tblue Aug 2013 #46

Remarkable isn't it? Union Scribe Aug 2013 #48

Sorry, not enough space here to discuss nullification. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #91

+1 n/t jaysunb Aug 2013 #96

UNDOUBTEDLY! People get kind of uncomfortable when you point out what hacks they are being Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #75

Thank you Zen. You're brave to say any of that here. DevonRex Aug 2013 #17

Puhleez . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #18

But, all he has to do is consider the damn source Cha Aug 2013 #19

also +1 Hekate Aug 2013 #40

+1 JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #61

you don't seem to get that the op cali Aug 2013 #20

You are correct. I believe that the far left is as guilty as the far right in being reactionary. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #26

I've seen lots of people express their opinions without labeling other Democrats in unsavory ways. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #51

Cali, after being called everything under the sun that is bad DevonRex Aug 2013 #27

Of course on DU name calling is simply allowed 'everything under the sun' and also this self serving Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #49

Hi Blue. I love you. DevonRex Aug 2013 #53

+1 Hekate Aug 2013 #39

His only color is green. He's a Plutonomist shill. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #22

that's as simplistic and silly as the op. cali Aug 2013 #25

Talk about a silly post. Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #47

Perhaps you are unaware of the following facts? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #50

Your slant is well established. Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #56

Absolutely none of the dozens of stories to which I've linked are RW or RWNJ. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #57

Uh uh Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #60

I am one person who once voted for Obama and now I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #62

That sounds familiar.... Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #63

Ad hominem? Calling me a Koch shill? What is wrong with you? FFS. How about this? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #64

You're playing to the audience at this point. Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #65

You list reasons to impeach Obama here: DevonRex Aug 2013 #66

That is one angry "Democrat"--there are many, many more examples to be had Hekate Aug 2013 #71

making up new words every day, I see. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #76

Hey Zen, thank you for your Cha Aug 2013 #23

"He's accomplished more for people than any president I've lived through" ?!?!? How so? dkf Aug 2013 #29

When did teabaggers becomes progressive? GoneFishin Aug 2013 #31

Please define "racial in the here and now" tblue Aug 2013 #35

That phrase reminded me of Melissa Harris-Perry's comment on POTUS' Trayvon speech Hekate Aug 2013 #42

More of that lovely the left are racists crap nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #38

Amen! JaneyVee Aug 2013 #43

I'm glad you didn't like LBJ's handing perpetual war to the JSOC and intelligence networks. rug Aug 2013 #44

Because BHO didn't start the fire. And by your logic there can never be a progressive president. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #89

He escalated the one in Afghanistan. He can be progressive simply by reversing course. rug Aug 2013 #90

And I disagreed about that from the beginning. I think Barack Obama should have listened to Biden. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #93

K&R. n/t FSogol Aug 2013 #45

OP reads like a bizarre manifesto LittleBlue Aug 2013 #52

No shit LittleBlue mick063 Aug 2013 #55

pretty clear. reactionaries are the same no matter what "team" they play for. seems pretty clear to Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #77

Wrong. Not Progressives. Anti-Obama Progressives, which is an oxymoron. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #94

You have a very peculiar, singular even, definition of 'reactionary.' As a Democratic HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #54

thanks for the counter definition. not. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #78

I'm pretty sure I don't deserve your bile. I was hoping to challenge the OP to HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #87

Word salad for supper again? winter is coming Aug 2013 #58

A heaping pile of fallacy. The ONLY people contesting Obama are "reactionaries"? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #59

Just a few things Union Scribe Aug 2013 #68

you're not smart. read some Noam Chomsky. The PEOPLE have to be sufficiently exercised to force Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #79

Your poor interpersonal skills aside... Chomsky you say? Union Scribe Aug 2013 #82

Union Scribe mick063 Aug 2013 #84

Thanks! Union Scribe Aug 2013 #85

Jesus. I read Chomsky, I watch Chomsky videos, I enjoy Chomsky. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #95

You have completely ignored his appointments. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #70

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #80

He does have an interesting way of getting things into public debate, bemildred Aug 2013 #86

Liberals just refuse to understand the reason why we can't all have nice things! Zorra Aug 2013 #92

I had a catalytic go bad once. It smelled like rotten eggs. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #99