Public School Teachers and Administrators: How should we fire them?

[BrentWil]

54. So emotional...

DEFINE "performs at an acceptable level"

I would say that this is subjective and best determined at the local level. I would say unacceptable should be defined as "inability to educate students and inability to improve because of lack of motivation or lack ability." This is something a teacher peers and administrators will know more then anyone else. I am a fan of a 360 review system, in which teachers get feedback from their peers, administration and students.

WTF? "The limited number that are bad and kept is what the media picks up on." Show me one example please.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/03/local/me-teachers3

Firing teachers can be a costly and tortuous task

...It's remarkably difficult to fire a tenured public school teacher in California, a Times investigation has found. The path can be laborious and labyrinthine, in some cases involving years of investigation, union grievances, administrative appeals, court challenges and re-hearings.

Not only is the process arduous, but some districts are particularly unsuccessful in navigating its complexities. The Los Angeles Unified School District sees the majority of its appealed dismissals overturned, and its administrators are far less likely even to try firing a tenured teacher than those in other districts.

The Times reviewed every case on record in the last 15 years in which a tenured employee was fired by a California school district and formally contested the decision before a review commission: 159 in all (not including about two dozen in which the records were destroyed). The newspaper also examined court and school district records and interviewed scores of people, including principals, teachers, union officials, district administrators, parents and students.

Among the findings:

* Building a case for dismissal is so time-consuming, costly and draining for principals and administrators that many say they don't make the effort except in the most egregious cases. The vast majority of firings stem from blatant misconduct, including sexual abuse, other immoral or illegal behavior, insubordination or repeated violation of rules such as showing up on time.

* Although districts generally press ahead with only the strongest cases, even these get knocked down more than a third of the time by the specially convened review panels, which have the discretion to restore teachers' jobs even when grounds for dismissal are proved.

* Jettisoning a teacher solely because he or she can't teach is rare. In 80% of the dismissals that were upheld, classroom performance was not even a factor.

When teaching is at issue, years of effort -- and thousands of dollars -- sometimes go into rehabilitating the teacher as students suffer. Over the three years before he was fired, one struggling math teacher in Stockton was observed 13 times by school officials, failed three year-end evaluations, was offered a more desirable assignment and joined a mentoring program as most of his ninth-grade students flunked his courses.

WTF? "With that thought in mind..." Why should we accept your silly premise? Because you said it?

It is a dissuasion board, isn't it?

Don't you realize that being a teacher is like other jobs? There already are processes for dealing with job performance issues just like in other professions.

Actually, jobs are wildly different in how they handle bad performers.