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38. We don't put our 'boots on the ground' if possible. We use proxy armies, our dictator

Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:24 PM

Aug 2013

friends, like Bahrain eg, supply some of the 'rebels' as they did in Libya.

The problem with Syria is that the people fought way harder than expected and it's taking too long and the PNAC crowd is getting impatient.

This is Iraq and Libya all over again. and it's shameful if it happens, that WE voted for it this time.

How many more of the PNAC list of countries do we have to go before the bloodshed and the lies stop?

Iraq
Afganistan
Libya
Syria
Iran
Lebanon

Ledeen: 'We're going to turn the ME into a sheet of glass'

Yes, well, unless someone stops them.

And apparently this time, even Democrats are on board.

Although come to think of it, they were on board last time, at least some of them. But we were so busy with Bush we failed to realize what was really happening.

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Remember the British Intelligence/Yellow Cake controversy? [View all] Junkdrawer Aug 2013 OP

Is it just me, or is this place very quiet this morning? Like we're in mourning. leveymg Aug 2013 #1

I think that loss of hope is going to be hard Hydra Aug 2013 #12

It has a "Guns of August" feel about it - a lot of unintended consequences and a wider, longer, leveymg Aug 2013 #13

It's not good Hydra Aug 2013 #17

I agree Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #31

doubt it--the "at least he's put no boots on the ground" crowd will just change the mantra to MisterP Aug 2013 #35

We don't put our 'boots on the ground' if possible. We use proxy armies, our dictator sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #38

Lost illusions. Good way to put it. I agree. Th1onein Aug 2013 #40

Ahh...the "Ultimatum to Disarm." Saddam tried to comply.... KoKo Aug 2013 #2

This time for sure.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #3

Where's the advantage in disarming. Exactly. Saddam disarmed. reusrename Aug 2013 #41

this isn't a very good comparison- unless you think that cali Aug 2013 #4

Sorry, I don't believe Assad is that stupid. Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #5

conducted by whom? And based on what don't you think that Assad is that "stupid" cali Aug 2013 #6

That's just it. The US is still uncertain who did it. The Brits, however, are sure it was Assad. Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #7

that still doesn't answer the question: Who do you think conducted a "false flag" cali Aug 2013 #8

Let's just say that Larry Wilkerson has accused Israel of such false flag operations in Syria.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #9

seems ridiculous to me cali Aug 2013 #14

Wilkerson doesn't stike me as a "blame the Jews for all the ills of the world" type... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #29

It's not even clear whether it was artillery or a rocket attack. leveymg Aug 2013 #19

We would be stupid to not confirm every detail before we get sucked into it. leveymg Aug 2013 #15

We'd be stupid... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #33

Yup leveymg Aug 2013 #34

i agree...bad analogy Supersedeas Aug 2013 #25

I'm putting my neck on the line malaise Aug 2013 #10

So you think Medecins Sans Frontiere is in on perpetrating a hoax? cali Aug 2013 #18

I don't think there are too many who are still doubting that people were killed by some sort of gas. leveymg Aug 2013 #20

isn't that just precisely what I said? cali Aug 2013 #36

Let me put it this way malaise Aug 2013 #32

you really, really need how to employ some critical thinking. cali Aug 2013 #37

malaise, you'll want to read this.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #39

There was a chemical attack, the only question is by whom. All sides agree there was an attack stevenleser Aug 2013 #21

Yea ...the USA used chemicals to attack too. Who's going to tell us to disarm? L0oniX Aug 2013 #27

Not to mention Agent Orange. zeemike Aug 2013 #30

I'm going to say it was a false flag operation by foriegn entities. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #22

I wonder if we'll get another David Kelly whistleblow + "suicide" out of this Hydra Aug 2013 #11

Now that you mention it, not many have stepped forward since then. Octafish Aug 2013 #16

+1 nashville_brook Aug 2013 #23

Yes, a coincidence, I'm certain n/t Hydra Aug 2013 #24

yeah, remember heaven05 Aug 2013 #28

Didn't we use phosphor on Faluja and didn't we drop cluster bombs? So who will tell us to disarm? L0oniX Aug 2013 #26

Even If... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #42