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The Philosopher

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60. Do you need to know anyone personally

Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:06 PM

Aug 2013

to show respect? You're among other people, a private forum in a public space, among strangers, and you can show civility and respect to everyone here, including those who are transgender. It is obtuse to keep using the reasoning "I don't know X personally." Some might say maliciousness. The more brusque might even call it cowardice. As you're hinging your argument on proof of her being transgender and your lack of personal knowledge of it, that you would choose "he/she" when either case may be is insulting no matter what, as I know most men who identify with that gender dislike being called a woman. If you continue this line of argument, it will be because you choose to be disrespectful and malicious, not unsure.

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I don't care if you call him/her Bradley or Chelsea. [View all] jazzimov Aug 2013 OP

I want that ridiculously long sentence reduced to something more rational Warpy Aug 2013 #1

I can respect that! jazzimov Aug 2013 #2

Manning's gender identity being female is not a matter of her sexuality. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #17

No, YOU said that Warpy Aug 2013 #20

It doesn't need to be your business LittleBlue Aug 2013 #32

It's her, period. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #3

Leave Manning be n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #4

I don't see it all as separate issues. noamnety Aug 2013 #5

Shooting unarmed civilian rescuers is a war crime pscot Aug 2013 #6

Yep. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #8

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #7

Becoming Klinger from MASH? Unbelievable. The Link Aug 2013 #9

I have seen in my short time here PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #15

Tolerance does not include tolerating intolerance. gollygee Aug 2013 #16

I Will Not Tolerate Intolerance! PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #19

Yep. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #22

Refusing to do something as simple as use the proper pronoun IS bigotry. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #36

Show me where I said it wasn't. PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #43

Which in this case, I believe may be more accurately called simply "incivility" LanternWaste Aug 2013 #52

very observant - observe the group-think or else . . . . DrDan Aug 2013 #47

Why are you guys whining about simple common courtesy? nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #65

please show me a post where I did that - you can't DrDan Aug 2013 #66

You cannot The Philosopher Aug 2013 #55

Criticism does not equal persecution. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #64

You are a piece of work, you know that? NuclearDem Aug 2013 #35

This is The Philosopher Aug 2013 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #59

Do you need to know anyone personally The Philosopher Aug 2013 #60

To summarize: Bigotry doesn't bother you. The Link Aug 2013 #10

Do you also think it is alright to use disrepectful verbiage about other minority individuals Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #11

Do you think it is alright to use disrespectful verbiage about people PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #21

You think Manning's sexuality is an 'erroneous belief?' leftstreet Aug 2013 #23

You think it's a political persuasion? PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #27

Gender identiy and sexuality are not the same thing. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #31

Excellent. You are correct. PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #44

I think the other person's point is pipi_k Aug 2013 #45

Thank you. PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #49

Telling. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #25

Thank you for making my point. PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #38

Language can hurt. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #40

And I think that was a great statement and agree wholeheartedly. PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #46

I sure don't equate a person's Party to a person's essence as you seem to Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #29

[sigh] OK PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #48

I am so glad you are NOT in charge of national policy nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #12

Well she DOES. So call her Chelsea. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #13

I prefer to refer to her as a convicted felon who gave away state secrets to foreign nationals. madinmaryland Aug 2013 #26

Thank you! n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #28

She was a he when he committed the crimes, though, making it even more confusing. Though I am glad madinmaryland Aug 2013 #34

I just hope that Manning is not using this as a ruse to be transferred away from the male population ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #42

Convicted felon is legal reality. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #50

Yes lumpy Aug 2013 #54

No one is denying the felony conviction. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #30

Exactly. I thought blatant flamebait was outside the "community standard". n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #39

You and me both. I don't understand why it's still here. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #41

It's amazing how much of this shit I'm seeing Arcanetrance Aug 2013 #14

I guess it's the "big tent". ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #37

maybe its time the big tent burned down Arcanetrance Aug 2013 #56

what a useless piece of ......op. cali Aug 2013 #18

It's pretty simple LittleBlue Aug 2013 #24

I really hope you enjoy pizza. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #33

JizzimOff Says WHAT ??? WillyT Aug 2013 #53

I don't care if you prefer pepperoni & mushroom or ham & pineapple. Electric Monk Aug 2013 #57

ever since Vietnam G_j Aug 2013 #58

Best response here malokvale77 Aug 2013 #62

I consider him a hero, and if he wants to call himself "Chelsea" quinnox Aug 2013 #61

Simply speaking, this post is an example of transphobic bigotry and TOS violation to boot. idwiyo Aug 2013 #63