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Bluenorthwest

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36. you are fairly advanced in liberal life to have zero knowledge about these things.

Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:03 PM

Aug 2013

It is a hell of a gap in your knowledge and experience, and you don't seem to have any feelings that such a gap is perhaps, present for reasons of your own making. I'd have a twinge of chagrin about it rather than a list of demands to offer up as to why the uninformed are in the right.

I am going to assume you have no idea about the depth and horrors of what has been said on DU this week. Unlike you, Will, I have trans people that I love very much, and have known for most of my life, man and boy. I don't have the luxury of asking questions in ways that piss people off then blaming them for being pissed off.
I am to be honest, very surprised you are so inexperienced in this part of life. I did not know so many are so deeply uninformed. I assumed most of the crap was intentional because, damn, how can a grown up be without any facts on this?

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I've been moving all week and missed the Chelsea Manning wars here. [View all] WilliamPitt Aug 2013 OP

Many of us have been deeply edified and educated by the conversation. k&r Little Star Aug 2013 #1

Indeed, folks need to distinguish ignorance, insensitivity, and malice as separate things. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #2

And to distinguish honest ignorance from willfull ignorance. arcane1 Aug 2013 #16

You know, I've been to the Czech Republic Three Times... jberryhill Aug 2013 #3

Same here as far as Korea is concerned GP6971 Aug 2013 #4

Always remember which gu your dong is in jberryhill Aug 2013 #6

Always n/t GP6971 Aug 2013 #15

Praguephobia wercal Aug 2013 #8

I encourage you to look carefully at where the heat has been. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #24

I guess you missed this little gem ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #53

I have seen the thread - Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #56

Bullshit. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #65

When you are in a thread discussing the transition (as that thread was) Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #80

Well I saw lots of posts about how vicious some posts were... wercal Aug 2013 #59

If you are going to suggest that the people complaining were innocently Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #61

Well I can't look at everything that was hidden wercal Aug 2013 #102

The tone of that first OP sets my teeth on edge. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #109

Well I am relatively new to typing the pronouns... wercal Aug 2013 #114

Absolutely. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #115

It is hard when one is learning MuseRider Aug 2013 #5

So on Facebook you decided to speak about that of which you are 'crashingly ignorant'? Why? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #7

He did ask a question. Ilsa Aug 2013 #11

Don't bother. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #17

Wow. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #28

Will isn't the one in this picture who is creepy. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #69

I was gratified to read your exchange with Bluenorthwest...it lets me know msanthrope Aug 2013 #41

We should start a support group. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #42

Yeehaw! Circle the wagons! Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #46

Careful Will...hanging out with a noted authoritariancryptofascist will only get you in trouble. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #50

"There has never been a time when I came away from an exchange with Bluenorthwest without feeling.." dionysus Aug 2013 #58

DU used to be Ilsa Aug 2013 #72

There are many to the Right of Conservative around here, passing themselves off as "Democrats". RC Aug 2013 #106

The 'question' came with the assertion that it is about 'happiness' and as such the 'question' was Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #25

You're really stretching. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #26

And you are a constantly aggressive writer, Will, never skip a chance to insult others Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #31

The only bad reaction I got on DU was from you. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #33

Not the only criticism however, and you got blasted on FB and you characterize the reasons as Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #37

Did you get a chance to see the sheep party yet? snooper2 Aug 2013 #112

He posted a question and stated that he learned from it. cui bono Aug 2013 #13

See post #17. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #18

You would think that would be the case. Liberal Veteran Aug 2013 #60

I can't speak for Mr. Pitt but... mwooldri Aug 2013 #63

I am so done with you and your hate. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #68

Best Wishes for your family in your new home. May Brigid bless the house where you dwell KittyWampus Aug 2013 #9

Well, now you DO know. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #10

I don't get why you are proud of lacking knowledge and having a limited life experience. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #12

Proud? WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #22

you are fairly advanced in liberal life to have zero knowledge about these things. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #36

"I did not know so many are so deeply uninformed." WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #39

That's what I thought when I read his post, too Politicub Aug 2013 #40

Thank you, Bluenorthwest, for sticking with this... Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #45

Nope. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #49

Note how deeply alone I am in crticizing your post? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #51

Yep. You win. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #55

No one wins in a converstaion like this, Will, and you know that. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #107

I appreciate you letting me know.. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #74

I've stayed away from all the threads concerning this issue. DinahMoeHum Aug 2013 #14

You're not alone. GP6971 Aug 2013 #20

The heat has been largely directed at individuals Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #19

Very well said. n/t GP6971 Aug 2013 #23

+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #27

This. n/t enigmatic Aug 2013 #29

Yes. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #44

This. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #100

I think a lot of us had to adjust to the news. Hydra Aug 2013 #21

JackBeck linked to an excellent essay on HuffPost Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #30

My sympathies on the moving. aquart Aug 2013 #32

It's understandable to not get it, learn, and adapt gollygee Aug 2013 #34

You missed nothing worthwhile. Curmudgeoness Aug 2013 #35

In a heteronormative world.... Politicub Aug 2013 #38

When you go to the "why should I pay" argument, you are in right wing land... Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #43

Good point. Similar to 'why should I pay for their cable tv?' leftstreet Aug 2013 #48

I'm am going to... one_voice Aug 2013 #52

Yeah. Because most prisoners are child molesters. Snort. Try again. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #70

Don't choke on your snorting... one_voice Aug 2013 #76

Happy prisoners are less inclined to repeat offending. Snort again. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #77

Updated my post... one_voice Aug 2013 #79

Updating after the fact is the bomb. I love pre-arguments. It makes one look Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #81

I was updating as you posted... one_voice Aug 2013 #83

Prisons have the duty to provide medical care to prisoners. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #101

I said I wanted... one_voice Aug 2013 #103

I can give you the question about paying for the surgery dsc Aug 2013 #47

well said.... madrchsod Aug 2013 #54

In the old days here on DU you could ask a question to educate yourself... trumad Aug 2013 #57

^^^^This. - nt Liberal Veteran Aug 2013 #62

+ 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #75

Over the top Vanje Aug 2013 #78

Nope. The response from MANY LGBTs here was over the top. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #90

I dont think ALL of DU's LGBTs Vanje Aug 2013 #93

I find their all or nothing Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #97

Claiming that all members of a minority group 'spit at you' because some criticized you is uncool. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #105

That's a little disingenous, Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #84

You got me wrong... trumad Aug 2013 #98

The intro sounded like DU is so different Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #99

Thats awfully unfair Vanje Aug 2013 #87

trumad, I've learned you can ask what time it is..... steve2470 Aug 2013 #89

It's great to see people being educated on this topic. (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #64

fwiw the honestly ignorant and open-minded here were treated well, on balance steve2470 Aug 2013 #66

I agree Vanje Aug 2013 #82

The problem with that theory (troll infestation) Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #85

some of the people were long-termers, true nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #86

This is why I don't put much value in post counts backscatter712 Aug 2013 #110

I've been found to be guilty of crimes against humanity for ONE time kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #67

sorry you were jumped on so quickly steve2470 Aug 2013 #73

Thank you. You guys KNOW you have a friend in me. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #88

imho (and sorry Skinner)..... steve2470 Aug 2013 #91

I agree. This place has a large population of trolls who are here only to kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #94

The overall Alexa traffic count has been going down for 2 years now (overall) steve2470 Aug 2013 #95

Mr. Pitt, thank you. mwooldri Aug 2013 #71

I don't think Chelsea / Bradley gives a rat's ass what any of us here on DU pnwest Aug 2013 #92

I think that this war started out as a veiled attack against another poster. Th1onein Aug 2013 #96

As has been said many times, Will, enlightenment Aug 2013 #104

I couldn't have said it better myself. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #113

Chelsea Manning's statement, since you brought it up Laughing Mirror Aug 2013 #108

I hear everyone moves in August or September in Boston. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #111