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In reply to the discussion: You have GOT to be fucking kidding me!! [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)54. This is very interesting. I just read through the whole thing and it appears
that the DOJ is basing its contention that the Bush gang ARE immune due to their job description under the Westfall Act.
But this Iraqi Woman appears to have preempted that defense because she is accusing them of plotting all of this BEFORE they stole their jobs in the WH.
In her lawsuit, Saleh alleges that:
Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz began planning the Iraq War in 1998 through their involvement with the Project for the New American Century, a Washington DC non-profit that advocated for the military overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
Once they came to power, Saleh alleges that Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz convinced other Bush officials to invade Iraq by using 9/11 as an excuse to mislead and scare the American public into supporting a war.
Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz began planning the Iraq War in 1998 through their involvement with the Project for the New American Century, a Washington DC non-profit that advocated for the military overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
Once they came to power, Saleh alleges that Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz convinced other Bush officials to invade Iraq by using 9/11 as an excuse to mislead and scare the American public into supporting a war.
From her attorney, it sounds like they expected this response which may be why they went back to their PNAC days where they pre-meditated the crime in Iraq:
The good news is that while we were disappointed with the certification, we were prepared for it, Comar stated. We do not see how a Westfall Act certification is appropriate given that Ms. Saleh alleges that the conduct at issue began prior to these defendants even entering into office. I think the Nuremberg prosecutors, particularly American Chief Prosecutor Robert Jackson, would be surprised to learn that planning a war of aggression at a private non-profit, misleading a fearful public, and foregoing proper legal authorization somehow constitute lawful employment duties for the American president and his or her cabinet.
In a just society they would all be in jail by now and all of their ill-gotten wealth would have been used up in law suits with nothing left for their heirs, assuring that we wouldn't have to deal with the next generation of potential criminals, as we are seeing with Cheney.
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oh, sorry, you're right. But now that those w/pre-existing conditions can buy health insurance
magical thyme
Aug 2013
#202
But we are a nation of cowards...so say our great AG of these United States
Supersedeas
Aug 2013
#15
Most of the stuff we read about that's happening in our country is indefensible
Heather MC
Aug 2013
#163
Wow. Unbelievable. But nothing shocks me anymore. But at least Pot users are still being jailed! n-t
Logical
Aug 2013
#8
Oh I don't know... a Google search for "Sundus Shaker Saleh" returns over 94,000 hits.
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2013
#22
The president is only part of an institution, he's a person, like a corporation.
orpupilofnature57
Aug 2013
#14
I read once that all Presidents take it as a mission to protect the executive powers of the office.
cigsandcoffee
Aug 2013
#17
He's protecting the Presidency as an institution, and Bush, and himself. (fixed it for you) nt
Electric Monk
Aug 2013
#18
No you protect the office of the President by prosecuting the people who abused their power.
Chisox08
Aug 2013
#195
And Manning and Snowden are criminals ? no shit. How about purger's, knowingly lying ?
orpupilofnature57
Aug 2013
#12
This whole thread is full of fail...I wonder if anybody has actually "read" the 2 page PDF
snooper2
Aug 2013
#97
Since 1789, has any US President allowed the prosecution of a previous President?
madinmaryland
Aug 2013
#32
Has any US President INTERFERRED WITH A PRIVATE CIVIL LAWSUIT AGAINST a previous President?
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#69
You really expect Obama to be given "professional" courtesy, if the next President is a Republican?
Harry Monroe
Aug 2013
#207
~~~~~~~~~~ globalresearch is a shit source, it used to be forbidden on DU ~~~~~~~~~~
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#41
Rather than either of us have a pointless battle over semantics, how about better sources?
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#140
Daily Kos, like Drudge and Huffington, is not an original source in most instances.
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#151
No. I happen to have a job that takes considerable attention away from having foolish arguments.
NYC_SKP
Aug 2013
#170
I wanted to know if you plan to back up your accusation. Get to it when you get to it.
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#172
I imagine conflating precise communication with " pointless battle over semantics"...
LanternWaste
Aug 2013
#153
This makes sense. Otherwise the following adminstration would be open to prosecution...
Pterodactyl
Aug 2013
#47
I wish all our victims luck If the day ever comes where our so-called leaders are brought to justice
Catherina
Aug 2013
#124
He did. He will attempt to convince the gd hosts to lock it because of the source.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#78
They are including Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, and Condoleezza Rice.
YOHABLO
Aug 2013
#59
"legitimate scope of their employment" = lies to commit a crime against humanity?
WinkyDink
Aug 2013
#62
"After it was set up and finished with the German War Crimes tribunals, the US refused to join,....
Ghost in the Machine
Aug 2013
#204
You would think that international law would still hold them responsible
Rosa Luxemburg
Aug 2013
#72
Nor are you alone, Bush and Cheney didn't think of themselves as employees either.
A Simple Game
Aug 2013
#111
"the President said it, I believe it, that settles it": 2004 bumper sticker updated for all admins!
MisterP
Aug 2013
#158
This is the stuff that foments deep seated hatred by the people and a desire for overthrow.
ancianita
Aug 2013
#113
From the same office that says Snowden should've used "proper channels" to expose their crimes.
Marr
Aug 2013
#169
Except if, God help us, that President is a looney bin-Teabilly Republican
Harry Monroe
Aug 2013
#206