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Ms. Toad

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86. I agree.

Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:58 AM

Aug 2013

It is just most directly hurtful to trans* members for whom the daily flow of deliberate misgendering is a backdrop for a lot of larger insults - including life threatening ones. And - I'm having a hard time expanding the horizons of those deliberately mis-gendering Chelsea Manning (and jurors reviewing the posts) to even think beyond Chelsea Manning to other trans* individuals who are indirectly being told that their gender identity is not up to them to define.

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I am not transphobic, I hate name changes [View all] jollyreaper2112 Aug 2013 OP

Why did Constantinople get the works? Liberal Veteran Aug 2013 #1

I blame the song. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #2

That's nobody's business but the Turks! nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #16

Even old New York, was once New Amsterdam. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #65

Chelsea Manning doesn't have gender confusion issues, but by all means, myrna minx Aug 2013 #3

Giving the benefit of the doubt here... NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #7

agreed, I hate self righteousness treestar Aug 2013 #62

It's not mockery jollyreaper2112 Aug 2013 #8

Refusing to use the gender pronoun she has requested Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #10

This post sounds like some low rent whiny Jerry Seinfeld-esque riff at the expense of trans people. myrna minx Aug 2013 #12

What if someone just doesn't like Manning and takes any opportunity to ignore his/her requests Synthesize Aug 2013 #25

It's the same Tien1985 Aug 2013 #27

Good analogy. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #31

Using the "wrong" pronoun pipi_k Aug 2013 #45

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Orrex Aug 2013 #57

On what reasoning do you base your prejudice? nt Zorra Aug 2013 #71

How you treat Manning as to this request Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #28

Not to trivialize pipi_k Aug 2013 #47

I do - in each of those cases. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #50

I don't see pipi_k Aug 2013 #58

You demonstrate a curious over-reliance on scare quotes. Orrex Aug 2013 #60

Using a pronoun other than the pronoun requested is disrespectful Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #61

What principle? Bigotry? BainsBane Aug 2013 #80

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #82

Then you can do that but keep it to yourself. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #85

Insulting not only to trans* members of DU but also to many others among us. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #84

I agree. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #86

As I said elsewhere - why name yourself after a football club dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #33

As a trans woman myself, it's silly to go through life with a male name MillennialDem Aug 2013 #4

Oh, I dunno... pipi_k Aug 2013 #49

Also it is not gender confusion. She knows she is a woman in her brain. The body MillennialDem Aug 2013 #5

It's not confusion, it's a disorder Bay Boy Aug 2013 #37

It will be called gender dysphoria in the DSM V and is no longer a disorder, it is MillennialDem Aug 2013 #38

I agree n/t Bay Boy Aug 2013 #40

Chelsea Stadium? Oh wait, it's MetLife Stadium now... DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #6

It also has nothing to do with Phobia. Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #9

Wow. How on earth do you cope when people you know get married and forestpath Aug 2013 #11

+1000! theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #24

+1 JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #26

It's trying jollyreaper2112 Aug 2013 #42

What about NICKNAMES? Lots of people use multiple variations of forestpath Aug 2013 #48

everytime someone gets married its like PTSD over here La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #77

I still call it Bombay. And Burma. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #13

Makes you sound like a Republican. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #22

So then, you're an idiot. flvegan Aug 2013 #14

+1 BOG PERSON Aug 2013 #18

I think Prince is back to Prince now quinnox Aug 2013 #15

And you started an OP just for this? How bored *are* you tonight? nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #17

I'm not crazy about them either but I'll gladly make the effort for a transgendered person steve2470 Aug 2013 #19

"I am not transphobic" handmade34 Aug 2013 #20

constant name changing... R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #21

Narrow minded BS. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #23

Huh? gollygee Aug 2013 #29

Name changes aren't strange in the least. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #30

I'm on my third DU name. City Lights Aug 2013 #32

Do you find you have a general fear of change, or is it just name changes? nt Zorra Aug 2013 #34

Have you ever mentioned this at a wedding where names change most of the time? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #35

Yes UtahLib Aug 2013 #36

Other people's names are all about you? Brickbat Aug 2013 #39

I'm not transphobic, therefore it's okay for me to exhibit transphobic behavior. Iggo Aug 2013 #41

Well it's hard to adjust to these name changes gollygee Aug 2013 #43

.. La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #76

Noted, jollyreaper. Btw how did your parents decide on that name? nolabear Aug 2013 #44

"he's got gender confusion problems" burnodo Aug 2013 #46

Where I am "Mary" can become "Starlight". It's annoying. nt rrneck Aug 2013 #51

And your real name is rrneck? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #70

I have little patience for affectation. rrneck Aug 2013 #73

Constantinople? War Horse Aug 2013 #52

Byzantium, anyone? n/t SwankyXomb Aug 2013 #55

So your Mommy named you jollyreaper2112? Or is that a name that you, like, picked? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #53

So you're against women changing their surnames when they marry, right? Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #54

It's interesting that "once" means "constant" now. Posteritatis Aug 2013 #56

I interpreted it pipi_k Aug 2013 #59

You mean like 95% of couples getting married? Many of them do marry a few times.... Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #69

Whine, whine, whine lunatica Aug 2013 #63

You not okay with most women changing their name when they get married? Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #64

OMG! Chelsea changed her name once! Everybody panic and pout! n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #66

I am totally with you on this! noamnety Aug 2013 #67

Manning doesn't have gender confusion problems. Manning is Transgendered. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #68

You'll be changing your user name to you birth name soon then, yes LanternWaste Aug 2013 #72

Gender confusion problems? Marrah_G Aug 2013 #74

constant name changing? is she doing it every 5 mins? La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #75

Yusuf Islam is the name Cat Stevens took. MADem Aug 2013 #78

"gender confusion problems" ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #79

Then just use "Manning" Union Scribe Aug 2013 #81

I only have problems if it's difficult to pronounce or spell FloridaJudy Aug 2013 #83