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reusrename

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24. Not true. Not true at all.

Reply to kardonb (Reply #20)

Mon Aug 26, 2013, 07:50 AM

Aug 2013

We've been responsible for their "self-made" problems.

We installed the Shah and Saddam, not the people over there.

Although I hope it's not intentional, you've fallen into the trap of blaming the victim.

And that's sort of the same problem that exists for the thesis in the OP.

There really are oppressors and oppressed, and it isn't correct to look at them as equals.

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The Middle East explained in one letter to the editor [View all] n2doc Aug 2013 OP

Clear as mud, as they say. nt Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #1

Can't say it better than that malaise Aug 2013 #10

clear as mud kardonb Aug 2013 #20

Not true. Not true at all. reusrename Aug 2013 #24

I thought I knew something about the Middle East ... Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #2

Well done. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #3

K & R for the mess it is and the disaster waiting to happen. JimDandy Aug 2013 #4

"the mess it is and the disaster waiting to happen" Aerows Aug 2013 #14

It took years of effort, with death squads lopping off heads at night, to foment unrest in Iraq. reusrename Aug 2013 #25

And he doesn't even mention Israel and Europe! OldEurope Aug 2013 #5

Thanks for straightening that out, Mr. Al-Sabah. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #6

Love it. nt Live and Learn Aug 2013 #7

excellent .. and throw into the mix that there are tribal and family littlewolf Aug 2013 #8

Centuries and more hobbit709 Aug 2013 #12

They make the Hatfields and the McCoys look like Aerows Aug 2013 #15

US State Dept: please read the letter. nt SDjack Aug 2013 #9

"when we understand this chart, we've won..." lastlib Aug 2013 #11

It's a simple matter to understand that it's bullshit. reusrename Aug 2013 #26

I had a wild fantasy the other day. Bette Noir Aug 2013 #13

That's OK. The US has a lot of kerosene to throw on that fire....again. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #16

And THAT's the way, uh huh, uh huh We Like It.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #17

Any guide that fits in a nutshell deserves to stay there. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #18

Oil and religion makes strange bedfellows. nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #19

There is money to be made. RC Aug 2013 #21

See what happens when you beat your head against a brick wall? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #22

Perfect! Hope our Prez reads it. Scuba Aug 2013 #23

This is like putting the rapist and the victim on equal footing. reusrename Aug 2013 #27

And when the oppressed are calling for oppression of others? jeff47 Aug 2013 #29

I don't see it that way. reusrename Aug 2013 #30

You're free to see it any way you'd like. But that doesn't change jeff47 Aug 2013 #31

Most people aren't at all interested in oppressing anyone. reusrename Aug 2013 #33

Yet we're still talking about the actual rebel groups and their actual histories. jeff47 Aug 2013 #34

This makes me even madder at Obama BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #28

That would be humorous if there weren't so many people dying. panader0 Aug 2013 #32