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KharmaTrain

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42. Even If...

Mon Aug 26, 2013, 08:53 AM

Aug 2013

...chemical weapons are proven (and I'm one who thinks they have been used), you just don't stamp these things out with a missile strike. Technically Syria has been at war non-stop since 1948...not only with Israel but also its involvement in Lebanon. Add to that a very militarized border with Turkey and you have a country that has many "justifications" to develop chemical weapons and did. My bets they are widespread across the country; especially since the civil war began and the only way to prevent their use is to end this civil war. Unfortunately the US is in no position to do so...

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Remember the British Intelligence/Yellow Cake controversy? [View all] Junkdrawer Aug 2013 OP

Is it just me, or is this place very quiet this morning? Like we're in mourning. leveymg Aug 2013 #1

I think that loss of hope is going to be hard Hydra Aug 2013 #12

It has a "Guns of August" feel about it - a lot of unintended consequences and a wider, longer, leveymg Aug 2013 #13

It's not good Hydra Aug 2013 #17

I agree Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #31

doubt it--the "at least he's put no boots on the ground" crowd will just change the mantra to MisterP Aug 2013 #35

We don't put our 'boots on the ground' if possible. We use proxy armies, our dictator sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #38

Lost illusions. Good way to put it. I agree. Th1onein Aug 2013 #40

Ahh...the "Ultimatum to Disarm." Saddam tried to comply.... KoKo Aug 2013 #2

This time for sure.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #3

Where's the advantage in disarming. Exactly. Saddam disarmed. reusrename Aug 2013 #41

this isn't a very good comparison- unless you think that cali Aug 2013 #4

Sorry, I don't believe Assad is that stupid. Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #5

conducted by whom? And based on what don't you think that Assad is that "stupid" cali Aug 2013 #6

That's just it. The US is still uncertain who did it. The Brits, however, are sure it was Assad. Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #7

that still doesn't answer the question: Who do you think conducted a "false flag" cali Aug 2013 #8

Let's just say that Larry Wilkerson has accused Israel of such false flag operations in Syria.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #9

seems ridiculous to me cali Aug 2013 #14

Wilkerson doesn't stike me as a "blame the Jews for all the ills of the world" type... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #29

It's not even clear whether it was artillery or a rocket attack. leveymg Aug 2013 #19

We would be stupid to not confirm every detail before we get sucked into it. leveymg Aug 2013 #15

We'd be stupid... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #33

Yup leveymg Aug 2013 #34

i agree...bad analogy Supersedeas Aug 2013 #25

I'm putting my neck on the line malaise Aug 2013 #10

So you think Medecins Sans Frontiere is in on perpetrating a hoax? cali Aug 2013 #18

I don't think there are too many who are still doubting that people were killed by some sort of gas. leveymg Aug 2013 #20

isn't that just precisely what I said? cali Aug 2013 #36

Let me put it this way malaise Aug 2013 #32

you really, really need how to employ some critical thinking. cali Aug 2013 #37

malaise, you'll want to read this.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #39

There was a chemical attack, the only question is by whom. All sides agree there was an attack stevenleser Aug 2013 #21

Yea ...the USA used chemicals to attack too. Who's going to tell us to disarm? L0oniX Aug 2013 #27

Not to mention Agent Orange. zeemike Aug 2013 #30

I'm going to say it was a false flag operation by foriegn entities. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #22

I wonder if we'll get another David Kelly whistleblow + "suicide" out of this Hydra Aug 2013 #11

Now that you mention it, not many have stepped forward since then. Octafish Aug 2013 #16

+1 nashville_brook Aug 2013 #23

Yes, a coincidence, I'm certain n/t Hydra Aug 2013 #24

yeah, remember heaven05 Aug 2013 #28

Didn't we use phosphor on Faluja and didn't we drop cluster bombs? So who will tell us to disarm? L0oniX Aug 2013 #26

Even If... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #42