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uponit7771

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49. NOT a minor talking point a HUGE difference...surveillance is not spying. Boston would

Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:04 AM

Aug 2013

...not have caught the bombers if there were no cameras surveying the area.

SPYING is totally different, that's looking into non public places or were there's an expectation of privacy.

There's been no proof of widesperad systematic spying, only people stoking fears of the "computerizers" doing such

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''Is it just me, or is secret blanket surveillance obscenely outrageous?'' [View all] Octafish Aug 2013 OP

"But terror and stuff" whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #1

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And former President Carter: "America has no functioning democracy." woo me with science Aug 2013 #36

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That's still the elephant in the room Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #8

Says who? I say we start talking about it. silvershadow Aug 2013 #23

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K&R PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #5

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K&R! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #9

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It's just you, Al. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #13

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K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #20

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What's outrageous is a government that demands full disclosure from it's citizens,... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #27

That's not just outrageous, it's a recipe for disaster. winter is coming Aug 2013 #30

Any politician that doesn't see that is too isolated in the DC bubble.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #31

SECRET Government Is a One-Way Mirror. Octafish Aug 2013 #34

He might not "have invented the internet," but he certainly understands it well enough! :) Pholus Aug 2013 #29

Al Gore Tears Into NSA Defenders: 'We Don’t Do Dial Groups On The Bill Of Rights' Octafish Aug 2013 #35

He certainly should try to! nt Pholus Aug 2013 #37

Good God that's a wonderful idea! Gore. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #59

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You got that right. Octafish Aug 2013 #52

THANK YOU, former President Gore! Th1onein Aug 2013 #39

An Open Letter to My Former NSA Colleagues Octafish Aug 2013 #44

Thank YOU, Octafish, for educating me, and others. Th1onein Aug 2013 #48

****DEAR MR GORE, The blanket surveillance by the gov isn't all secret and never has been**** uponit7771 Aug 2013 #40

Nothing like missing the point. Octafish Aug 2013 #42

Nothing like spewing more libertarian sophistry surveillance doesnt mean spying..two difference word uponit7771 Aug 2013 #45

Wow. A minor talking point and a cheap smear. Octafish Aug 2013 #47

NOT a minor talking point a HUGE difference...surveillance is not spying. Boston would uponit7771 Aug 2013 #49

Keep digging. Octafish Aug 2013 #50

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"the equivalent of the second X-Men movie where..." Union Scribe Aug 2013 #46

cultists only like him when they can blame Nader: what Gore actually does and says is beyond them MisterP Aug 2013 #41

Amazing, isn't it? Octafish Aug 2013 #56

Al Gore always hated Obama... 99Forever Aug 2013 #43

He's a ratscrewing paulite libertarian. Octafish Aug 2013 #54

Kick... AzDar Aug 2013 #51

In part I blame the sheep who were/are willing to stand in airport lines while getting free feel-ups AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #55

K&R'd immediately upon reading Gore's tweet....but snappyturtle Aug 2013 #60