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Tommy_Carcetti

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45. To me, it's not a matter of "can" more than it being a matter of "should".
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:38 AM
Aug 2013

I'm *okay* with someone owning a reasonable firearm for home protection, provided that it is safely locked away and secured.

However.....

I don't understand why anyone would need a high capacity, rapid fire weapon like an AR-15 for home protection, though. They're not concealable (making the securing of them problematic) and I don't see the situation where anyone whose home is being invaded would need to fire off more than a few shots in rapid succession to either hit their target or scare off the intruders.

I also don't understand why anyone would need more than one gun for home protection. I don't get people who buy gun after gun after gun and claim it's all for the purpose of "home protection." Personally I think that type of thinking is an addiction, a sickness.

And even if one is reasonable in purchasing a gun for home protection and it's a reasonable gun that they're purchasing, there still begs the question: Does that person really need that gun? Or is possessing that gun creating a greater risk to the inhabitants of the household than the perceived risk to the household for which the gun is being purchased?

Do you live in a neighborhood notorious for violent crimes? Has there been a rash of home invasions in the immediate area? Did you witness a mafia murder?

If the answer to any of those questions is yes, I can understand the purchase. If not....then I just don't see why one *should* get the gun, just because they *can*.

I keep on thinking back to the man who several months ago came into the office right next to ours and shot both himself and his wife dead. He and his wife lived in a safe, upper middle class neighborhood with no major crime issues. Yet he purchased a gun for "protection." And after his wife told him she had been having an affair and wanted to leave him.....boom. Literally.

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Exactly how many times has someone invaded your home? rug Aug 2013 #1
once backwoodsbob Aug 2013 #2
And what happened? rug Aug 2013 #4
he got 18 months backwoodsbob Aug 2013 #10
Sorry it happened. Still it's very rare. rug Aug 2013 #12
well you shot a dog once, so i guess you need your guns, well, if you actually needed to shoot it CreekDog Aug 2013 #39
My wife shot and killed a home invader while I was at work several years ago. wild bird Aug 2013 #17
I guess for some situations you have to grow a bit of an emotional/psychological callous. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #26
She told the police and me that her only thought was protecting wild bird Aug 2013 #28
Really an awful situation, yeah. Even if she may have taken the "lesser evil" option. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #29
You have a link for that? Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #33
Sorry, but that would be providing personal information as to who she is wild bird Aug 2013 #36
No link because it's obviously bullshit. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Aug 2013 #80
Believe what you want. wild bird Aug 2013 #81
And that's all that matters! Moses2SandyKoufax Aug 2013 #83
As I stated earlier, wild bird Aug 2013 #84
I feel much worse for her than him... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #57
Thank you. wild bird Aug 2013 #58
And, when those multiple home invasions happen, how much time do you need to likesmountains 52 Aug 2013 #3
never fired a shot so no idea backwoodsbob Aug 2013 #6
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #5
why thank you backwoodsbob Aug 2013 #7
i thought you left CreekDog Aug 2013 #41
I'm not against it. a la izquierda Aug 2013 #8
Some people are against deterrence. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #9
They don't consider it legitimate for good reason kcr Aug 2013 #21
Correct Electric Monk Aug 2013 #31
Or maybe they just believe in statistics. DanTex Aug 2013 #49
Depends on where your home is. Neoma Aug 2013 #11
I dont need my nerves calmed..I'm fine backwoodsbob Aug 2013 #13
Tell that to the family dog CreekDog Aug 2013 #42
in that thread he says the dog attacked both him and his smaller dog... bit the small dionysus Aug 2013 #71
you're assuming his version of the story is true, I think it's as much BS as his promise to leave DU CreekDog Aug 2013 #72
if what he said was true, i think he had the right to act. but since it's the internet, we'll dionysus Aug 2013 #73
I don't have a problem with it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2013 #14
The answers you get are just going to piss you off. Brickbat Aug 2013 #15
+1 Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2013 #23
Oh, please. It's an absurd question. Robb Aug 2013 #16
I fully agree with you. wild bird Aug 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Aug 2013 #22
It is never that simple. There are loads of murky areas. But in the middle of the night geckosfeet Aug 2013 #32
So put you down for no one should have guns in their home? And about that 99% The Straight Story Aug 2013 #34
Robb didn't say that. CreekDog Aug 2013 #43
I'm fine with people having guns for home protection, assuming they're managed safely. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2013 #18
My mother's husband (technically my stepfather) CANDO Aug 2013 #25
You can also dispatch a family dog into the everafter, eh Bob? flvegan Aug 2013 #20
I hate it when gun nuts kill threads. NV Whino Aug 2013 #24
I think you should be able to own "home protection" even if I probably wouldn't do so myself. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #27
Deadly force if and when I am confronted with severe bodily harm or death or overwhelming force. geckosfeet Aug 2013 #30
"You can't expect older or debilitated people (like me) to just take a beating and hope for the best The Straight Story Aug 2013 #37
Trained guard dogs. Industrial locks. Alarm systems. Closed circuit video. Bat line to the DA. geckosfeet Aug 2013 #40
I'm glad the elderly "gun nut" had a shotgun available and used it. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #35
How many people have you shot and killed who had broken in trying to shoot and kill you? CreekDog Aug 2013 #38
Guns and ammo in the hands of civilians is a bad thing. ileus Aug 2013 #44
To me, it's not a matter of "can" more than it being a matter of "should". Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #45
Home protection vs. other uses. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #53
You seem to be stuck on deciding what other adults "need". MicaelS Aug 2013 #54
It's a legitimate philosophical question. Sorry if it offends you, but it needs to be asked. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #55
I'm going to let you in a big secret. MicaelS Aug 2013 #56
Well it certainly is irrational behavior on behalf of the gun enthusiasts. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #59
I own 8 guns, two shotguns, two large caliber rifles, two .22 rifles, and two handguns. Jenoch Aug 2013 #61
So.....why? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #62
My point was setting the stage for you to tell me Jenoch Aug 2013 #63
It's well within the government's police powers to regulate firearms. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #64
"All those guns"? Jenoch Aug 2013 #66
I'll go on record by saying eight guns is a lot of guns for one person. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #67
I use the long guns for hunting and target shooting, Jenoch Aug 2013 #68
Again, it's a question that gun owners have to ask themselves. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #69
What's a valid question? Jenoch Aug 2013 #70
At a certain point, universal common sense begins to kick in. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #74
Of course I could 'survive' Jenoch Aug 2013 #75
Owning a gun for sporting purposes is perfectly rational. NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #77
Perhaps. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #82
That is your opinion and nothing more. NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #85
I honestly believe it is a sickness. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #86
It's normal human nature. I can understand how it's revolting, but it isn't a sickness NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #88
I'll jump in and relate the reasons for my own gun purchases. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #65
I have a huge problem with Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #46
So you believe that competition shooting is a "violent sport"? oneshooter Aug 2013 #60
I have no issue granting Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #76
Define "having guns in the home for protection" Ohio Joe Aug 2013 #47
I don't personally have a problem with people having a gun in their own home gollygee Aug 2013 #48
I'm not against people having guns but leftyladyfrommo Aug 2013 #50
Well, I don't know Xyzse Aug 2013 #51
I keep a pipe wrench next to the bed Warpy Aug 2013 #52
Christians with guns for protection are hypocrites TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #78
Back to the Bible with you sarisataka Aug 2013 #79
Some posters will use any issue Union Scribe Aug 2013 #87
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