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112. "..not a warmongering moron"? Is this the same Obama who escalated the lost war in Afghanistan?

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:31 AM

Aug 2013

And, is still sending drones to kill people?

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President Obama is intelligent, thoughtful and engaged. He is not a warmongering moron. [View all] Nye Bevan Aug 2013 OP

The US does what the insane government of Israel tells it to (for some unrevealed, Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #1

I think Helen Thomas would have concurred with that. Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #2

ridiculous. the theory that a country of 7 million million people cali Aug 2013 #6

I agree for the most part Scootaloo Aug 2013 #10

Exactly. cali Aug 2013 #13

+1 Little Star Aug 2013 #84

They (the shadow government) tried to have a nuclear first strike under Cheney. reusrename Aug 2013 #120

It's not Israel. It's the Saudis you should worry about. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #24

That is daft LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #25

frankly if there is a major outside instigator it is the Saudis - Israel may very well support an Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #32

Offensive, anti-Semitic bullshit.., SidDithers Aug 2013 #43

Amazing how anything against Israel, automatically gets the "anti-Semitic" label tossed at it.... Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #48

Yep... I caught that one too... RevStPatrick Aug 2013 #49

+100 Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #55

If the shoe fits...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #50

Naw more like your motives are suspect. Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #54

... SidDithers Aug 2013 #61

Who would have thunk that the person calling President Obama geek tragedy Aug 2013 #100

Yup... SidDithers Aug 2013 #102

Oh Sid! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #128

he called Israel a "Zion death cult". dionysus Aug 2013 #122

You clearly don't know the difference between NuclearDem Aug 2013 #57

'The Jooz control America' meets my definition... SidDithers Aug 2013 #58

Israel did try to coerce US into doing things several times in the past year. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #66

You agree with FWWM?... SidDithers Aug 2013 #69

No, i dont. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #70

Saying that Israel is trying to influence US policy is one thing... SidDithers Aug 2013 #71

Gotcha there. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #72

Which is where the confusion with my comment was NuclearDem Aug 2013 #75

Of course they tried to persuade the US into doing some things. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #104

So anyone who disagrees with Israels international policies darkangel218 Aug 2013 #63

The poster was claiming that Israel directs US policy... SidDithers Aug 2013 #68

Oh Jesus. Dawgs Aug 2013 #73

Well, it's all moot now... SidDithers Aug 2013 #74

What does that link have to do with MY comment about YOUR post? Dawgs Aug 2013 #77

I don't know... SidDithers Aug 2013 #81

A clink of the coffee mugs was heard in cube-rat-land Kolesar Aug 2013 #107

Not at all but if you make the comments that cali Aug 2013 #119

Yup. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #46

Blackmail. Octafish Aug 2013 #56

I called the fire department Coyotl Aug 2013 #65

No, not really. MineralMan Aug 2013 #80

LOL tabasco Aug 2013 #83

More Israeli bashing? wild bird Aug 2013 #93

Israel wanted us to go to war against Iran years ago bhikkhu Aug 2013 #110

Getting drawn into a war in Syria between the Shi'ia and the Sunni Jihadis is not grown-up. leveymg Aug 2013 #3

Since that hasn't happened yet, it remains to be seen. Unless you are going to tell us you can stevenleser Aug 2013 #53

Steve, the point of activism is to effect policy outcomes not to be quiet until the decision is made leveymg Aug 2013 #62

Then you used the wrong tense in your comment. I would agree that if Obama goes to war, it's stevenleser Aug 2013 #67

Did i ever tell you that darkangel218 Aug 2013 #76

Aww you have me on iggy! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #82

No I don't. ;-) stevenleser Aug 2013 #85

Well, Cheers then!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #87

Thank you for pointing this out.. tridim Aug 2013 #95

I have to agree madokie Aug 2013 #4

It would be foolish to believe that one man could stop the historical US war machine. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #5

One man who is the commander in chief of the U.S. military. He just might be able to do something Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #7

The US military is almost exclusively a corporate venture at this point. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #8

So it doesn't matter who the POTUS is? tblue Aug 2013 #16

+1 Scuba Aug 2013 #40

I'd be really happy with the Commander in Chief if he stood up to the Corporate Venture Maedhros Aug 2013 #20

Some would say it's been that way for a while LearningCurve Aug 2013 #30

As I posted in another thread ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #9

And no posts supporting his action? cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #11

Never said there wouldn't be posts Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #14

Focus on policy. tblue Aug 2013 #19

It's not a matter of 'popularity' Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #22

My apologies. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #28

Well put Andy823 Aug 2013 #103

Now there's a clear statement of fact, that last sentence. byronius Aug 2013 #124

Not "some people", Neo-DU... tridim Aug 2013 #97

I just came back from an Obama Re-Education/Torture Pro-Corporate Agenda Camp byronius Aug 2013 #125

^^K&R^^nt Progressive dog Aug 2013 #127

Shoots.. that's just filed under ODS 101 Cha Aug 2013 #17

The diagnosis of Obama Derangement Syndrome could be more impressive Fumesucker Aug 2013 #37

What are the odds that Obama is simply wrong A LOT and there isn't some grand conspiracy... Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #21

No "conspiracy" just simple ODS. Anything he does is wrong by Cha Aug 2013 #23

What are the odds that Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #27

So you are telling us that long time DU Liberals and Left wing Democrats are also being manipulated RC Aug 2013 #88

No, they don't represent ALL ... ALL the "long time" contributers though uponit7771 Aug 2013 #92

+1, Looking at the AMOUNT and FREQUENCY of rw memes I'm leaning towards what you said uponit7771 Aug 2013 #91

+1 darkangel218 Aug 2013 #94

Tell me about it! You got that right on the money! nt MADem Aug 2013 #36

+1...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #45

+1 JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #78

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2013 #90

Nailed it. Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #106

I agree steve2470 Aug 2013 #12

He is, but thoughtful, engaged people fuck up too. cali Aug 2013 #15

Except I'm not sure what the job is, here. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #18

Exactly right. If Obama was a warmonger, he'd have started a war. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #26

We still have military peep in Iraq and Afghanistan. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #39

And Iran as well bhikkhu Aug 2013 #111

Well, if Obama chooses to wage war.... HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #113

What a dumb response... Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #116

I want my money back. I thought I donated $ to a person who was opposed to stupid wars. dkf Aug 2013 #29

+1 darkangel218 Aug 2013 #59

PNAC, moving right along. woo me with science Aug 2013 #31

It's all about arms sales. It almost always is. cali Aug 2013 #47

Drones. N/t Fearless Aug 2013 #33

nothing good will come of a military attack - not in the long run - you will see Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #34

Ah I see...... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #35

tell that to civilians he has killed with drones... bowens43 Aug 2013 #38

Honestly, i doubt he is the one giving the orders. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #60

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #41

a kinder, gentler machine gun hand. KG Aug 2013 #42

The proof is in the pudding PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #44

It makes me sad to read your post.... Little Star Aug 2013 #96

It makes me angry to read your post, woo me with science Aug 2013 #109

The behavior around here re Syria and CW reminds me... Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #51

That will not save his ass if he attacks Syria. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #52

The best and the brightest n2doc Aug 2013 #64

Thanks for this Nye JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #79

Many intelligent, thoughtful and engaged people make huge errors as you well know. To claim Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #86

Wars only lead to destruction, death and dispair darkangel218 Aug 2013 #98

No matter what the President does with Egypt or Syria is will be a "mistake" on some level. kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #89

I was also impressed with how he handled Bin Laden..... Little Star Aug 2013 #99

I see him as all of the above. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #101

It's time to stop giving people a pass because of the (D) after their name whoiswithme Aug 2013 #105

Ya' know, we do have a political process called "the primaries" Kolesar Aug 2013 #108

And you think this is working out well? whoiswithme Aug 2013 #115

"..not a warmongering moron"? Is this the same Obama who escalated the lost war in Afghanistan? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #112

Yep. The n-dimensional chess-master.... HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #114

Obama is definitely no moron. Maedhros Aug 2013 #117

Obama is not a warmongering moron! Rex Aug 2013 #118

the OP has already made themselves forget about Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and two Surges MisterP Aug 2013 #121

No, he just lets warmongering torturers and WMD conspirators walk free Corruption Inc Aug 2013 #123

Leaked Documents: U.S. Framed Syria in Chemical Weapons Attack cantbeserious Aug 2013 #126