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In reply to the discussion: How can we get a progressive presidential candidate at the top of Democratic ticket in 2016? [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... that Hillary and Obama weren't. And that IS why they were voting for him, in addition to them thinking he might be the only one that had a chance against those two. Now if he weren't in the mix, the frustration of many of those who voted for him would still be there, and I submit many of those votes would have gone to Kucinich instead.
Now is there hard data to suggest this might have happened? Do you REALLY think the corporatist controlled media and pollsters would do a study on this? Huh? REALLY? They wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole!
I still submit that progressives are a majority of the party, and when we look at many issues that are called "progressive" but that a majority of the country supports, and are dismissed as "progressive" by the corporatist controlled media since it works against the 1% corporate elite's interests, that we still haven't had a real choice yet.
I submit that it would be hard for the "Third Way" folk to put in place a white guy that supports their "centrist" agenda the way that Obama or Hillary have, as they know they'd open themselves up to a challenger like a Elizabeth Warren that would have then both those wanting more progressive issues as well as voting for identity (Warren being a woman candidate) to work against them. That is why I don't think Biden will run. First, he's getting older, and though less "third way" than some others, he still has the baggage of pushing through the bankruptcy bill that has hurt many of us to help his Delaware corporate backers then. I think Warren would beat him handily in the primaries.