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Hahahahaha, that is funny. riqster Aug 2013 #1
Even if the NSA is able to break Strong Encryption formercia Aug 2013 #3
Anybody can break any encryption given time and resources. riqster Aug 2013 #4
Well, he's such a computer expert. He knows everything Laura taught him. nt pnwmom Aug 2013 #9
In cryptography, we usually don't call exhaustive key searching "breaking" Recursion Aug 2013 #10
Just using a common term formercia Aug 2013 #42
They aren't impervious to quantum decryption Shivering Jemmy Aug 2013 #96
#1 reason to think that they don't? Aerows Aug 2013 #99
Sure. Get back to us after the few millenia it takes to crack AES-256. EOTE Aug 2013 #14
sorry but never say never... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #40
Unless there is a math breakthrough Paulie Aug 2013 #51
Math processing is the issue...not math VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #64
Let's assume that Moore's law remains constant another 20 years (it most likely won't). EOTE Aug 2013 #82
still not good enough.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #85
You're right, Moore's Law IS no judge. EOTE Aug 2013 #95
there will be.....believe that! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #97
There will be Aerows Aug 2013 #100
IRC has been around since I started...long before the WWW even existed! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #103
I've been here on the WWW for nearly 25 years. Aerows Aug 2013 #105
LOL, me too. I miss the old modem noise. It seemed so cool. When I got a cable modem I thought I.... Logical Aug 2013 #153
I will never ever take it for granted Aerows Aug 2013 #188
I bet. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #192
I think I've griped and moaned Aerows Aug 2013 #193
I know how much I take for granted..... Logical Aug 2013 #194
I will never take running water Aerows Aug 2013 #195
So have I.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #164
Well, you are really wrong on this. But I love the confidence. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #154
" Just ask the folks that sold the framework for Windows to Bill Gates"? What the hell.... Logical Aug 2013 #152
I wondered. Aerows Aug 2013 #187
I'm going to wave, too Aerows Aug 2013 #120
"...given time and resources..." - Not exactly a true statement. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #160
"The full actual computation - checking each key to see if you have found a solution" Aerows Aug 2013 #175
Cool that you thought about it and explained it like I did. Aerows Aug 2013 #177
What information do you have that some of the world's smartest security experts don't? EOTE Aug 2013 #5
Assign a key to every atom in the universe Recursion Aug 2013 #8
I guess we'd need to use more than one universe. nt EOTE Aug 2013 #16
Quantum Shmantum Recursion Aug 2013 #19
Well there's a bs claim Egnever Aug 2013 #128
"We discovered Aerows Aug 2013 #136
We've got some pretty good upper and lower bounds Recursion Aug 2013 #156
Nothing is "crack proof". As you yourself say, riqster Aug 2013 #11
It IS currently crackproof. EOTE Aug 2013 #13
A "matter of time" Aerows Aug 2013 #25
No back door to public key encryption. longship Aug 2013 #45
Every mathematician and every CS geek Aerows Aug 2013 #47
Correct. longship Aug 2013 #61
We're on the same page Aerows Aug 2013 #65
Minor correction. DanTex Aug 2013 #123
Granted. longship Aug 2013 #125
I wouldn't be much of a math nerd if I didn't nitpick about technicalities... DanTex Aug 2013 #129
Me neither. longship Aug 2013 #132
None of us would be Aerows Aug 2013 #134
This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Aug 2013 #170
Try this one Aerows Aug 2013 #88
As of 2011, the top 10 uncrakced codes and/or cyphers are; greiner3 Aug 2013 #89
Interesting, thanks for posting. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #155
Nobody's even sure if the Voynich manuscript is actually a code Recursion Aug 2013 #157
And it isn't like that hasn't happened before Aerows Aug 2013 #173
You rarely need to brute force the entire keyspace to crack AES-256 Xithras Aug 2013 #54
Rainbow tables and arrays Aerows Aug 2013 #57
Yes, salting can be an effective countermeasure. Xithras Aug 2013 #70
We aren't talking about average users in this case, though Aerows Aug 2013 #71
Most strong passwords WOULD look like that. EOTE Aug 2013 #59
Put in a key within the password Aerows Aug 2013 #69
Doesn't include gibberish words that only the encryptor remembers. Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #130
Except often the passcode you type in just unlocks the actual key Recursion Aug 2013 #161
In the weeds Aerows Aug 2013 #167
If it's a big enough keyspace, he's right Recursion Aug 2013 #6
But one does not have to try an infinite number of combinations riqster Aug 2013 #15
Model it as a Bernoulli process Recursion Aug 2013 #18
I believe he is thinking intelligent algorithms Aerows Aug 2013 #26
Thats supposing you don't hit it on the 1,210th try thru dumb luck, lol. Erose999 Aug 2013 #31
Sure, you could even hit it on the first try. EOTE Aug 2013 #34
I appreciate your input on this hueymahl Aug 2013 #38
Sure thing, any time. EOTE Aug 2013 #83
Do the odds change creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #67
That relies on the random element of the human beings doing encryption Aerows Aug 2013 #117
No Recursion Aug 2013 #158
And if you pad it, too Aerows Aug 2013 #171
Greenwald is seriously ate up railsback Aug 2013 #2
I'm not sure about your definition of "ate up" but if you believe Aerows Aug 2013 #178
Do you really think those massive buildings going up are to house hard drives? railsback Aug 2013 #179
I think there is amateur hour, and then there is Aerows Aug 2013 #180
Ah, so you have no idea what a D-Wave is railsback Aug 2013 #181
I have no need to prove myself. Aerows Aug 2013 #182
Good Gawd railsback Aug 2013 #184
So, Tim Tebow, are you? Aerows Aug 2013 #185
toot! railsback Aug 2013 #189
Get him to write the encryption codes beneath... Aerows Aug 2013 #191
If it's encrypted with 256-bit AES, they can't Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #7
And twofish and blowfish take even longer Recursion Aug 2013 #12
The Trusted Platform Module handles Keys up to 2048 bits. formercia Aug 2013 #48
Yada Yada Yada, what the hell, since the files was stolen from NSA who would they think would not be Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #17
No, he probably just used openssl Recursion Aug 2013 #20
You mistake encryption after the fact Aerows Aug 2013 #27
Are you kidding me? They know every key stroke Snowden made while her husband as at NSA, they Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #72
I believed that up until the 3rd press conference. Aerows Aug 2013 #77
Since i have not seen frequent news reports out of the NSA in the years they have been in operation Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #94
You mistake me Aerows Aug 2013 #98
Yes I know about the mountain out of a mole hill but an ant hill but a regular ant hill is smaller Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #102
I guess you aren't familiar with fire-ant hills Aerows Aug 2013 #109
Guess I am familiar with fire ant hills, are you familiar with common red a t hills. Which is Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #110
Where are you from with red ants that don't sting? Aerows Aug 2013 #112
I was referring to the size of the ant hills, the common red ant hill is small and shallow, Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #113
Like this? Aerows Aug 2013 #114
would you say the common ant hill is larger or smaller than fire ant hill? Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #118
I'm asking if that is a common ant hill Aerows Aug 2013 #119
Not in my area but this is a classic example of making a mountain out of an ant hill. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #124
What is your area, which Indian province do you hale from, sir? Aerows Aug 2013 #126
That doesn't look like a red imported fire ant hill. Jamastiene Aug 2013 #145
Imported Aerows Aug 2013 #146
North Carolina Jamastiene Aug 2013 #147
I'm in the Deep South Aerows Aug 2013 #148
Ouch! Jamastiene Aug 2013 #149
It's either sand or dark earth where I am on the coast Aerows Aug 2013 #150
I see. Jamastiene Aug 2013 #159
I'd show you pictures of what it looked like after Katrina Aerows Aug 2013 #183
And wait a second... here Aerows Aug 2013 #104
That would be an autocorrect not intended, you know sorta like a typo. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #107
Where did the "husband" come in? Aerows Aug 2013 #108
It was changed by auto correct, i did not type husband. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #111
Memo to NSA: Snowden copied the files. You already have them. You don't need to break a code. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #21
Broken code to be used in the future. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #22
Actually if they want to know which ones are on the disk, they do. n/t hootinholler Aug 2013 #23
So they can run a spellcheck on them before some whistle blower relaeases them? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #24
No, for reverse engineering Aerows Aug 2013 #35
I'm sure he got as much as possible and has the non-relevant stuff safely stashed away somewhere Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #138
Me too, but I was trying to make it Aerows Aug 2013 #140
I don't claim to know much Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #142
Hey, you! NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #166
Hi NYC SKP! Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #176
If I were Snowden et. al Aerows Aug 2013 #29
We need more whistle blowers and hackers to help the NSA check and edit their files. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #36
That's kind of the beauty of doing it that way Aerows Aug 2013 #37
Which they desperately want to know Aerows Aug 2013 #39
You mean the thread I started Friday was castigated by the usual suspects hootinholler Aug 2013 #46
Precisely :) Aerows Aug 2013 #49
Like! Vanje Aug 2013 #141
Thank you for all your input on this thread. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #116
shhh... they are having fun. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #106
The NSA is thumbscrewed Blue Owl Aug 2013 #28
I am surprised they would be trying to break any codes. Rex Aug 2013 #30
Sure, someone out there has the encryption key Rstrstx Aug 2013 #41
So is Davey Jones locker. Rex Aug 2013 #43
According to the encryption experts on here Rstrstx Aug 2013 #50
There is always the easiest brute-force method Aerows Aug 2013 #53
Well if the NSA knows exactly what was stolen Rex Aug 2013 #56
They don't Aerows Aug 2013 #186
I can't help but wonder... Ohio Joe Aug 2013 #32
Thank you king-clown of FUD. tridim Aug 2013 #33
If I were the NSA Aerows Aug 2013 #44
Ubiquitous crypto is the NSA 's greatest fear. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #52
That's pretty cool Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #174
Rubber-hose Cryptanalysis Aerows Aug 2013 #55
When rubber hose cryptanalysis becomes common, the NSA will truly be the American Gestapo. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #66
I am curious, these Snowden/Greenwald haters here seem upset that they came out with this! Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #58
Thank you, Dustlawyer. Who are these people who are trying to smear GG truth2power Aug 2013 #75
I hope they're not NSA Vanje Aug 2013 #143
"Most all of them seem to be playing the part of Dim-wits." NealK Aug 2013 #165
This warms my heart!!... truth2power Aug 2013 #60
Gonna be real pissed off when he finds out Snowden's key is QWERTY AngryAmish Aug 2013 #62
He's not dumb, you know. I'll bet he used DVORAK instead. :) DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #92
Teh password is always SWORDFISH. Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #133
Why does GG say stuff like this: War Horse Aug 2013 #63
why? madrchsod Aug 2013 #79
"Because greenwald is in it for the fame and fortune." War Horse Aug 2013 #84
Uh, I'm here to debate you for the "fame" and "fortune" and I'm related to neither. Aerows Aug 2013 #137
"by which I mean that everyone’s communications electronically will be collected, stored, analyzed deurbano Aug 2013 #90
Those kinds of words are perfect chum for the gullible. Whisp Aug 2013 #93
Because this s such hyperbole nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #101
now that`s the funniest thing i`ve read in a long time madrchsod Aug 2013 #68
I disagree with Mr. Greenwald re:encryption saidsimplesimon Aug 2013 #73
I disagree with Mr. Greenwald re:encryption saidsimplesimon Aug 2013 #74
Why are these files encrypted anyway? Aren't they supposed to be leaked and released? arcane1 Aug 2013 #76
They don't want the particular spy agencies and politicians Aerows Aug 2013 #80
Then what's the point of taking the info in the first place? That's what I don't get... arcane1 Aug 2013 #86
Some of it probably has to be parsed through Aerows Aug 2013 #87
In that case, it sounds like Greenwald and Snowden also don't know what they have. arcane1 Aug 2013 #151
Why does that give you "kicks"? Recursion Aug 2013 #163
When my elected government lies to me Aerows Aug 2013 #190
But the claim was the *purpose* of the gradual releases was to get them to lie Recursion Aug 2013 #196
So you agree they lied? Aerows Aug 2013 #197
Who? When? Recursion Aug 2013 #198
I'll just leave this post to stand by itself. Aerows Aug 2013 #199
The Guardian, the Washington Post, Der Spiegal, and the NY Times are not done with Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #115
Yes there is Aerows Aug 2013 #131
So the point is "feeling more powerful than politicians" rather than "the truth"? Recursion Aug 2013 #162
I disagree with Mr. Greenwald re:encryption saidsimplesimon Aug 2013 #78
No one Aerows Aug 2013 #121
If they do break it.... blackspade Aug 2013 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex Aug 2013 #91
Wouldn't it just be a total hoot if the only thing on the thumb drives was Zorra Aug 2013 #122
I would think it was extraneous data. Aerows Aug 2013 #127
I'm a bit unclear why Greenwald is relying on thumb drives in the first place to get data to point B Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #135
There's a simpler way, and the NSA knows it... jmowreader Aug 2013 #139
In 2013... Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #144
Which is why they are so desperate to get their hands on him. Aerows Aug 2013 #168
One thing to remember Aerows Aug 2013 #169
FBI, NSA, et al could'nt even crack this Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #172
Kick... SidDithers Aug 2013 #200
Ain't that the truth! nt Andy823 Aug 2013 #201
Nope. The UK is pulling your strings. dkf Aug 2013 #202
Well...unless your husband is such a dumbass he carries the password on paper jmowreader Aug 2013 #203
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