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Aerows

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137. Uh, I'm here to debate you for the "fame" and "fortune" and I'm related to neither.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 08:10 PM
Aug 2013

I think some of you guys just freak out because you don't understand technology, and you pretty much think nobody else does either.

You are free to rant from your corner of insecurity, but I assure you that there are many that DO understand and how it will impact you. We illustrate how your rights can be destroyed or confiscated, and we stand up for that with regard to information rights.

We don't even need you to thank us. We do it because it is the right thing to do.

Hahahahaha, that is funny. riqster Aug 2013 #1
Even if the NSA is able to break Strong Encryption formercia Aug 2013 #3
Anybody can break any encryption given time and resources. riqster Aug 2013 #4
Well, he's such a computer expert. He knows everything Laura taught him. nt pnwmom Aug 2013 #9
In cryptography, we usually don't call exhaustive key searching "breaking" Recursion Aug 2013 #10
Just using a common term formercia Aug 2013 #42
They aren't impervious to quantum decryption Shivering Jemmy Aug 2013 #96
#1 reason to think that they don't? Aerows Aug 2013 #99
Sure. Get back to us after the few millenia it takes to crack AES-256. EOTE Aug 2013 #14
sorry but never say never... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #40
Unless there is a math breakthrough Paulie Aug 2013 #51
Math processing is the issue...not math VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #64
Let's assume that Moore's law remains constant another 20 years (it most likely won't). EOTE Aug 2013 #82
still not good enough.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #85
You're right, Moore's Law IS no judge. EOTE Aug 2013 #95
there will be.....believe that! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #97
There will be Aerows Aug 2013 #100
IRC has been around since I started...long before the WWW even existed! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #103
I've been here on the WWW for nearly 25 years. Aerows Aug 2013 #105
LOL, me too. I miss the old modem noise. It seemed so cool. When I got a cable modem I thought I.... Logical Aug 2013 #153
I will never ever take it for granted Aerows Aug 2013 #188
I bet. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #192
I think I've griped and moaned Aerows Aug 2013 #193
I know how much I take for granted..... Logical Aug 2013 #194
I will never take running water Aerows Aug 2013 #195
So have I.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #164
Well, you are really wrong on this. But I love the confidence. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #154
" Just ask the folks that sold the framework for Windows to Bill Gates"? What the hell.... Logical Aug 2013 #152
I wondered. Aerows Aug 2013 #187
I'm going to wave, too Aerows Aug 2013 #120
"...given time and resources..." - Not exactly a true statement. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #160
"The full actual computation - checking each key to see if you have found a solution" Aerows Aug 2013 #175
Cool that you thought about it and explained it like I did. Aerows Aug 2013 #177
What information do you have that some of the world's smartest security experts don't? EOTE Aug 2013 #5
Assign a key to every atom in the universe Recursion Aug 2013 #8
I guess we'd need to use more than one universe. nt EOTE Aug 2013 #16
Quantum Shmantum Recursion Aug 2013 #19
Well there's a bs claim Egnever Aug 2013 #128
"We discovered Aerows Aug 2013 #136
We've got some pretty good upper and lower bounds Recursion Aug 2013 #156
Nothing is "crack proof". As you yourself say, riqster Aug 2013 #11
It IS currently crackproof. EOTE Aug 2013 #13
A "matter of time" Aerows Aug 2013 #25
No back door to public key encryption. longship Aug 2013 #45
Every mathematician and every CS geek Aerows Aug 2013 #47
Correct. longship Aug 2013 #61
We're on the same page Aerows Aug 2013 #65
Minor correction. DanTex Aug 2013 #123
Granted. longship Aug 2013 #125
I wouldn't be much of a math nerd if I didn't nitpick about technicalities... DanTex Aug 2013 #129
Me neither. longship Aug 2013 #132
None of us would be Aerows Aug 2013 #134
This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Aug 2013 #170
Try this one Aerows Aug 2013 #88
As of 2011, the top 10 uncrakced codes and/or cyphers are; greiner3 Aug 2013 #89
Interesting, thanks for posting. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #155
Nobody's even sure if the Voynich manuscript is actually a code Recursion Aug 2013 #157
And it isn't like that hasn't happened before Aerows Aug 2013 #173
You rarely need to brute force the entire keyspace to crack AES-256 Xithras Aug 2013 #54
Rainbow tables and arrays Aerows Aug 2013 #57
Yes, salting can be an effective countermeasure. Xithras Aug 2013 #70
We aren't talking about average users in this case, though Aerows Aug 2013 #71
Most strong passwords WOULD look like that. EOTE Aug 2013 #59
Put in a key within the password Aerows Aug 2013 #69
Doesn't include gibberish words that only the encryptor remembers. Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #130
Except often the passcode you type in just unlocks the actual key Recursion Aug 2013 #161
In the weeds Aerows Aug 2013 #167
If it's a big enough keyspace, he's right Recursion Aug 2013 #6
But one does not have to try an infinite number of combinations riqster Aug 2013 #15
Model it as a Bernoulli process Recursion Aug 2013 #18
I believe he is thinking intelligent algorithms Aerows Aug 2013 #26
Thats supposing you don't hit it on the 1,210th try thru dumb luck, lol. Erose999 Aug 2013 #31
Sure, you could even hit it on the first try. EOTE Aug 2013 #34
I appreciate your input on this hueymahl Aug 2013 #38
Sure thing, any time. EOTE Aug 2013 #83
Do the odds change creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #67
That relies on the random element of the human beings doing encryption Aerows Aug 2013 #117
No Recursion Aug 2013 #158
And if you pad it, too Aerows Aug 2013 #171
Greenwald is seriously ate up railsback Aug 2013 #2
I'm not sure about your definition of "ate up" but if you believe Aerows Aug 2013 #178
Do you really think those massive buildings going up are to house hard drives? railsback Aug 2013 #179
I think there is amateur hour, and then there is Aerows Aug 2013 #180
Ah, so you have no idea what a D-Wave is railsback Aug 2013 #181
I have no need to prove myself. Aerows Aug 2013 #182
Good Gawd railsback Aug 2013 #184
So, Tim Tebow, are you? Aerows Aug 2013 #185
toot! railsback Aug 2013 #189
Get him to write the encryption codes beneath... Aerows Aug 2013 #191
If it's encrypted with 256-bit AES, they can't Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #7
And twofish and blowfish take even longer Recursion Aug 2013 #12
The Trusted Platform Module handles Keys up to 2048 bits. formercia Aug 2013 #48
Yada Yada Yada, what the hell, since the files was stolen from NSA who would they think would not be Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #17
No, he probably just used openssl Recursion Aug 2013 #20
You mistake encryption after the fact Aerows Aug 2013 #27
Are you kidding me? They know every key stroke Snowden made while her husband as at NSA, they Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #72
I believed that up until the 3rd press conference. Aerows Aug 2013 #77
Since i have not seen frequent news reports out of the NSA in the years they have been in operation Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #94
You mistake me Aerows Aug 2013 #98
Yes I know about the mountain out of a mole hill but an ant hill but a regular ant hill is smaller Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #102
I guess you aren't familiar with fire-ant hills Aerows Aug 2013 #109
Guess I am familiar with fire ant hills, are you familiar with common red a t hills. Which is Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #110
Where are you from with red ants that don't sting? Aerows Aug 2013 #112
I was referring to the size of the ant hills, the common red ant hill is small and shallow, Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #113
Like this? Aerows Aug 2013 #114
would you say the common ant hill is larger or smaller than fire ant hill? Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #118
I'm asking if that is a common ant hill Aerows Aug 2013 #119
Not in my area but this is a classic example of making a mountain out of an ant hill. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #124
What is your area, which Indian province do you hale from, sir? Aerows Aug 2013 #126
That doesn't look like a red imported fire ant hill. Jamastiene Aug 2013 #145
Imported Aerows Aug 2013 #146
North Carolina Jamastiene Aug 2013 #147
I'm in the Deep South Aerows Aug 2013 #148
Ouch! Jamastiene Aug 2013 #149
It's either sand or dark earth where I am on the coast Aerows Aug 2013 #150
I see. Jamastiene Aug 2013 #159
I'd show you pictures of what it looked like after Katrina Aerows Aug 2013 #183
And wait a second... here Aerows Aug 2013 #104
That would be an autocorrect not intended, you know sorta like a typo. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #107
Where did the "husband" come in? Aerows Aug 2013 #108
It was changed by auto correct, i did not type husband. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #111
Memo to NSA: Snowden copied the files. You already have them. You don't need to break a code. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #21
Broken code to be used in the future. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #22
Actually if they want to know which ones are on the disk, they do. n/t hootinholler Aug 2013 #23
So they can run a spellcheck on them before some whistle blower relaeases them? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #24
No, for reverse engineering Aerows Aug 2013 #35
I'm sure he got as much as possible and has the non-relevant stuff safely stashed away somewhere Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #138
Me too, but I was trying to make it Aerows Aug 2013 #140
I don't claim to know much Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #142
Hey, you! NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #166
Hi NYC SKP! Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #176
If I were Snowden et. al Aerows Aug 2013 #29
We need more whistle blowers and hackers to help the NSA check and edit their files. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #36
That's kind of the beauty of doing it that way Aerows Aug 2013 #37
Which they desperately want to know Aerows Aug 2013 #39
You mean the thread I started Friday was castigated by the usual suspects hootinholler Aug 2013 #46
Precisely :) Aerows Aug 2013 #49
Like! Vanje Aug 2013 #141
Thank you for all your input on this thread. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #116
shhh... they are having fun. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #106
The NSA is thumbscrewed Blue Owl Aug 2013 #28
I am surprised they would be trying to break any codes. Rex Aug 2013 #30
Sure, someone out there has the encryption key Rstrstx Aug 2013 #41
So is Davey Jones locker. Rex Aug 2013 #43
According to the encryption experts on here Rstrstx Aug 2013 #50
There is always the easiest brute-force method Aerows Aug 2013 #53
Well if the NSA knows exactly what was stolen Rex Aug 2013 #56
They don't Aerows Aug 2013 #186
I can't help but wonder... Ohio Joe Aug 2013 #32
Thank you king-clown of FUD. tridim Aug 2013 #33
If I were the NSA Aerows Aug 2013 #44
Ubiquitous crypto is the NSA 's greatest fear. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #52
That's pretty cool Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #174
Rubber-hose Cryptanalysis Aerows Aug 2013 #55
When rubber hose cryptanalysis becomes common, the NSA will truly be the American Gestapo. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #66
I am curious, these Snowden/Greenwald haters here seem upset that they came out with this! Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #58
Thank you, Dustlawyer. Who are these people who are trying to smear GG truth2power Aug 2013 #75
I hope they're not NSA Vanje Aug 2013 #143
"Most all of them seem to be playing the part of Dim-wits." NealK Aug 2013 #165
This warms my heart!!... truth2power Aug 2013 #60
Gonna be real pissed off when he finds out Snowden's key is QWERTY AngryAmish Aug 2013 #62
He's not dumb, you know. I'll bet he used DVORAK instead. :) DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #92
Teh password is always SWORDFISH. Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #133
Why does GG say stuff like this: War Horse Aug 2013 #63
why? madrchsod Aug 2013 #79
"Because greenwald is in it for the fame and fortune." War Horse Aug 2013 #84
Uh, I'm here to debate you for the "fame" and "fortune" and I'm related to neither. Aerows Aug 2013 #137
"by which I mean that everyone’s communications electronically will be collected, stored, analyzed deurbano Aug 2013 #90
Those kinds of words are perfect chum for the gullible. Whisp Aug 2013 #93
Because this s such hyperbole nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #101
now that`s the funniest thing i`ve read in a long time madrchsod Aug 2013 #68
I disagree with Mr. Greenwald re:encryption saidsimplesimon Aug 2013 #73
I disagree with Mr. Greenwald re:encryption saidsimplesimon Aug 2013 #74
Why are these files encrypted anyway? Aren't they supposed to be leaked and released? arcane1 Aug 2013 #76
They don't want the particular spy agencies and politicians Aerows Aug 2013 #80
Then what's the point of taking the info in the first place? That's what I don't get... arcane1 Aug 2013 #86
Some of it probably has to be parsed through Aerows Aug 2013 #87
In that case, it sounds like Greenwald and Snowden also don't know what they have. arcane1 Aug 2013 #151
Why does that give you "kicks"? Recursion Aug 2013 #163
When my elected government lies to me Aerows Aug 2013 #190
But the claim was the *purpose* of the gradual releases was to get them to lie Recursion Aug 2013 #196
So you agree they lied? Aerows Aug 2013 #197
Who? When? Recursion Aug 2013 #198
I'll just leave this post to stand by itself. Aerows Aug 2013 #199
The Guardian, the Washington Post, Der Spiegal, and the NY Times are not done with Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #115
Yes there is Aerows Aug 2013 #131
So the point is "feeling more powerful than politicians" rather than "the truth"? Recursion Aug 2013 #162
I disagree with Mr. Greenwald re:encryption saidsimplesimon Aug 2013 #78
No one Aerows Aug 2013 #121
If they do break it.... blackspade Aug 2013 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex Aug 2013 #91
Wouldn't it just be a total hoot if the only thing on the thumb drives was Zorra Aug 2013 #122
I would think it was extraneous data. Aerows Aug 2013 #127
I'm a bit unclear why Greenwald is relying on thumb drives in the first place to get data to point B Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #135
There's a simpler way, and the NSA knows it... jmowreader Aug 2013 #139
In 2013... Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #144
Which is why they are so desperate to get their hands on him. Aerows Aug 2013 #168
One thing to remember Aerows Aug 2013 #169
FBI, NSA, et al could'nt even crack this Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #172
Kick... SidDithers Aug 2013 #200
Ain't that the truth! nt Andy823 Aug 2013 #201
Nope. The UK is pulling your strings. dkf Aug 2013 #202
Well...unless your husband is such a dumbass he carries the password on paper jmowreader Aug 2013 #203
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