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1. The autopsies won't tell you what happened.

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Mon Aug 26, 2013, 08:56 PM

Aug 2013

Not really. Those men were caught by the fire. They either burned first - or hopefully, died of toxic fumes before they burned. Reading the reports or seeing photos of their bodies won't tell you anything about WHY that happened.

The report that has - or will be - written from the investigation will perhaps explain the set of circumstances that led them to becoming trapped by the fire. That should be released.

Deaths like these are not unprecedented events. It's happened before (http://wildfiretoday.com/2013/06/30/history-of-multiple-fatality-wildland-fires/) and it will probably happen again. Fighting forest fires is a dangerous business and every man and woman who does it knows that. We owe them our gratitude and a little respect - which doesn't include publicizing photos of their charred corpses for the prurient pleasure of the viewing public.

Sorry if I sound lecturing, but there really is no rational reason to release autopsy photos to the public.

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County Attorney will not release autopsies of Yarnell 19 without a court order. [View all] Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 OP

The autopsies won't tell you what happened. enlightenment Aug 2013 #1

There is absolutely a rational reason to release both the reports and the autopsies. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #2

What do you suggest they autopsy report will say? enlightenment Aug 2013 #6

It would absolutely serve the interest of the county and the state to conceal any wrong doing... Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #7

What I'm arguing is that enlightenment Aug 2013 #9

I'm not saying this is a cover up. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #11

But you're assuming that there is wrong-doing. enlightenment Aug 2013 #17

+1. n/t FSogol Aug 2013 #10

I agree. djean111 Aug 2013 #3

You cannot think of a single reason to release the photos? Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #5

fucking attorney what an asshole gopiscrap Aug 2013 #4

Unrec. Sometimes accidents happen. Everything isn't a conspiracy. FSogol Aug 2013 #8

They were public servants who died while on duty. En masse, might I add... Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #12

No, the public doesn't need to gawk at the photos. FSogol Aug 2013 #13

Are you suggesting it can be investigated without public disclosure? Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #14

A final report can be released. The dead firemen don't need to be paraded around FSogol Aug 2013 #15

Public disclosure is a standard, not an exception. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #16

So you would be happy to read the autopsy reports and not look at charred corpses, then, I assume. djean111 Aug 2013 #18

I'm not sure you understand the definition of "parading." Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #19

Oh, yes I do understand. djean111 Aug 2013 #20