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Syria's Assad and regime DESERVE everything they're about to get from the U.S. And the West [View all] Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 OP

How do we know he did it? Renew Deal Aug 2013 #1

That will be determined in due course, but I am certain rebels don't have access to his chemical Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #3

I'm not certain about anything Renew Deal Aug 2013 #5

The opposition has also used chemical weapons. And, they do have access to the crude rockets leveymg Aug 2013 #14

Both sides have chemical weapons. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #15

That's the rub BobbyBoring Aug 2013 #177

You're "certain?" City Lights Aug 2013 #131

Sarin and other gases are relatively easy to make. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #158

That will be determined in due course but the WAR MUST HAPPEN NOW?????? MNBrewer Aug 2013 #174

Shoot first, ask questions later. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #197

The weight of evidence points in the other direction, toward a particularly terrible provocation leveymg Aug 2013 #10

There is no reliable weight of evidence that I've seen bhikkhu Aug 2013 #19

In the absence of proof of who did it, and since it was obviously not in the interest of Assad to do leveymg Aug 2013 #26

yes paulk Aug 2013 #176

Maybe you should use Wikipedia for your info as some here do? nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #67

Anybody who believes Assad is the USA's puppet should start with simple DevonRex Aug 2013 #97

Aluminum tubes!!! AngryAmish Aug 2013 #141

Unrec. The holocaust exploitation is less than classy. cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #2

No. It is precisely on point. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #4

No, it's really not. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #11

To be fair The Straight Story Aug 2013 #41

Oh please. You and the OP are going to compare an internal civil war inside Syria with the HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #46

Comparing situations and outcomes, not emotional terms The Straight Story Aug 2013 #48

Have you studied the Holocaust or history of Nazi Germany much? If so, you'd understand HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #57

Systematic killing is systematic killing. Prior to this being a civil war, protesters were being Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #60

You're being disingenuous in the extreme about your point in bringing up the Holocaust. This is HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #72

You said it was "systematic killing". Which facility were the victims shipped to... MNBrewer Aug 2013 #191

Yes, I have. Which is why we should pay attention here. Who does Syria hate? The Straight Story Aug 2013 #63

Oh, for Christ's sake, you're arguing that b/c Assad allegedly used CBW on his own people, nothing HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #68

Not a big fan of Occam's Razor, are you? You just showed me everything I need to know Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #74

And I'm attempting to reason with someone who practices neo-McCarthyism and HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #75

Well, If I were crazy I would point out the following: The Straight Story Aug 2013 #78

Report: North Korea attempted to export gas masks to Syria; shipment was seized in Turkey The Straight Story Aug 2013 #82

You mean............ BobbyBoring Aug 2013 #180

Out of ALL the scenarios I've heard, bvar22 Aug 2013 #187

Thank you, HardTimes99 truedelphi Sep 2013 #210

Why Syria and not the Congo? eridani Aug 2013 #101

Why not the Congo? The Straight Story Aug 2013 #102

And: The Straight Story Aug 2013 #103

So why not leave Syria to the UN? n/t eridani Aug 2013 #108

As mentioned before: chemical attack, not to mention China and Russia The Straight Story Aug 2013 #109

Chemical attack by whom? eridani Aug 2013 #112

Well now, let us see how this goes: The Straight Story Aug 2013 #113

No representative of the world's only imperial power is trustworthy eridani Aug 2013 #118

Of course you wouldn't leftynyc Aug 2013 #148

There are not enough sarcasm smilies to represent the derangement-- eridani Aug 2013 #200

I defy you to find leftynyc Aug 2013 #201

U.N.: Chemical weapons use must be punished The Straight Story Aug 2013 #114

And this just in over the wires: The Straight Story Aug 2013 #115

Now, more on the UN in the Congo: The Straight Story Aug 2013 #110

Of course blowing up a bunch of civilians is the best way to insure stability eridani Aug 2013 #119

More: R2P - Responsibility to Protect The Straight Story Aug 2013 #120

Apparently the responsibility to protect doesn't apply to eridani Aug 2013 #121

+++++1000 nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #96

No, it's about gassing people to death treestar Aug 2013 #122

Well, let's see. When the U.S. picks sides in other nation's civil wars, we seem HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #127

I don't know what we are going to do, but hopefully treestar Aug 2013 #182

Thank you! truedelphi Sep 2013 #208

no, it couldn't be more off point as well as slimy and manipulative cali Aug 2013 #117

and nothing else? snooper2 Aug 2013 #98

People who are in no danger of going to fight pscot Aug 2013 #6

Very true. Moral outrage is an easy thing if you have nothing at stake bhikkhu Aug 2013 #62

WAR WAR WAR RAH RAH RAH WAR WAR WAR Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #7

Yep, Moses2SandyKoufax Aug 2013 #8

What exactly are they about to get? And how many Syrians will get it along with Assad and regime? rug Aug 2013 #9

Yup. That should be the question. Control-Z Aug 2013 #20

I guess he means the Christians and the Alawites are going to get the ass kicking of their life Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #40

Yes, and whom does it benefit??? nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #94

I hope they are ready, because that's who is really going to suffer when this ends badly MNBrewer Aug 2013 #192

Can only offer this in response... Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #12

Stupid post kentuck Aug 2013 #13

I'm a nattering nabob of negativism :) - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #42

I love that term, and wear it proudly still n/t Scootaloo Aug 2013 #51

So I want to know, oh great general, when are you enlisting? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #16

Best response of this thread. OP is a chickenhawk, sounds like, and badly in need of HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #21

Right! Fucking! On! LongTomH Aug 2013 #59

It's always 'TEH AWESOME" to talk about kicking someone's ass, as long bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #149

Godwin's Law right in the OP. Whoo-hoo! Wonder what all those dead and wounded Syrian women HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #17

Starts by embracing a Bush quote and ends with a Godwin. KurtNYC Aug 2013 #157

That is one damning indictment. I still remember how Galloway served HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #194

You sound so excited. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #18

It'll be a welcome break from his usual activities Moses2SandyKoufax Aug 2013 #23

WOW! What a reminder that is BobbyBoring Aug 2013 #184

Great another loser war in the Middle East! mrdmk Aug 2013 #22

The freed slaves of the American Civil War might take issue with your sentiments, as might those HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #33

The Civil War and WW II involved serious existential threats to the US eridani Aug 2013 #105

War and violence does not happen to the "regime." It happens to the people. (nt) enough Aug 2013 #24

Exactly! nt rdharma Aug 2013 #27

so when are you leaving for the front to join the fight lol nt msongs Aug 2013 #25

Wow, this is terrible MFrohike Aug 2013 #28

Yeah funny coming from a pretzel warrior. Rex Aug 2013 #58

'Peace purists?' Awwww somebody has a sad n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #29

Prove he did it. Otherwise I call BS. dkf Aug 2013 #30

According to their logic, if you call BS you must be HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #76

Why? Because you need to be a war monger to be pro-Semitic? dkf Aug 2013 #104

What's even more ironic is that Arabs are also Semitic. Fawke Em Aug 2013 #166

you'll see how this works out, you'll see Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #31

Is israel going to be helping out with this 'DESERVE everything they're about to get' operation? Purveyor Aug 2013 #32

Bingo! Cui bono? I ask. Why does this remind me of Iraqi soldiers ripping Kuwaiti babies from HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #37

That was my first thought also!!! nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #47

Probably not leftynyc Aug 2013 #150

Oh, don't listen to these humanitarian purists, who think those rights belong to them exclusively railsback Aug 2013 #34

I missed the "floor plans" stage of Glenn Greenwald's tripe Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #39

Nothing to fret over. The Prez will do what's right railsback Aug 2013 #49

Humanitarian purists? Peace Purists? I've heard it all on DU now. neverforget Aug 2013 #50

Yeah, you know, all those saying we shouldn't get involved. Let the death continue railsback Aug 2013 #52

Well then sign up! Get out there and Export some Freedom! neverforget Aug 2013 #55

LoL. How many people do you think it takes to launch some cruise missiles? railsback Aug 2013 #65

So much easier behind a keyboard neverforget Aug 2013 #66

That would seem to be the 'I got my humanitarian rights, the rest can go to Hell' meme railsback Aug 2013 #70

That comes from our selective outrage at atrocities. Murder by chemical weapons BAD! neverforget Aug 2013 #77

Certainly make the Roosevelts look bad. railsback Aug 2013 #87

I thought war was too? neverforget Aug 2013 #90

You don't get the exceptional danger of chemical weapons? treestar Aug 2013 #123

no shit. I'm talking about our selective moral neverforget Aug 2013 #124

They are separate issues treestar Aug 2013 #183

Why do you support Al Qaida? You're either with Assad or you're with Al Qaida - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #79

So.. um� now Al Qaeda is a threat? railsback Aug 2013 #81

If you oppose Assad, you're making common cause with those we used to HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #83

I see you have no problem with false choice logical fallacies. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #84

Loving Al Qaida, are we? - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #85

So, you don't know the manpower of al Nusra, nor do you know where they are railsback Aug 2013 #91

As opposed to the people cheering the obliteration of Alawites by the rebels eridani Aug 2013 #106

I know-- it's stunning. But then again, it's coming from the same 20 Marr Aug 2013 #139

No. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #35

Oh and this needs another response nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #36

Oh yes, we must stop the slow bleed notadmblnd Aug 2013 #38

I expect you will be joining any day now to go fight it. former9thward Aug 2013 #43

There are powerful countries that do NOT bomb the fuck out of other countries. Bonobo Aug 2013 #44

Here... I have a better idea MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #45

+11111111111111111111111111 BobbyBoring Aug 2013 #185

Replace Assad with Saddam and this all sounds so familiar. eom TransitJohn Aug 2013 #53

Is U.S. Preparing invasion force? No. Using 9/11 and al queda as pretext? No. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #54

Google Project for a New American Century nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #64

A) I found no articles on their "Syria" position and B) Obama doesn't report to them and Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #69

And C, Syria has been in the list of targets for regime change since 1998 nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #71

independent of WHO is in the WH MNBrewer Aug 2013 #193

You pose some very good points, and you ask a very truedelphi Sep 2013 #209

One that the OP will never ever answer nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #212

You also need to learn history - truedelphi Sep 2013 #207

HE GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE! HE HAD TO GO!!! kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #86

And today the CIA came clean on that. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #89

Our up-armored, modern hypocrisy is 100% irony-proof. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #93

Duzzy nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #95

Maybe we need leaders who have the "luxury" to stay out of other peoples civil wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #56

Cui bono? jmodden Aug 2013 #61

False flag! False flag! You CT nuts crack me up. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #80

False flag? leftynyc Aug 2013 #153

The question isn't whether the victims are false, but whether the "flag" is false MNBrewer Aug 2013 #205

LOL, ok, will take your word for it. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #73

This is one big chickenhawk FAILPOST. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #88

And if Obama doesn't bomb you'll be calling him a holocaust appeaser, of course. cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #92

What ifs cut different ways LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #99

Turkey finds sarin gas in homes of suspected Syrian Islamists mwrguy Aug 2013 #100

Beat those drums, baby. Beat 'em. Bomb bomb bomb, as McCain said. Th1onein Aug 2013 #107

what a mindbogglingly ridiculous post. Seriously, you sound like you're about 14. Are you? bowens43 Aug 2013 #111

your op is hopelessly uninformed. cali Aug 2013 #116

"peace purists" what a gawd awful thing to be! boston bean Aug 2013 #125

Here is Pretzel_warrior's idea of peace activism PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #152

My elderly mother still remembers the war years. PDJane Aug 2013 #126

The OP is only interested in making neo-McCarthyite chickenshit slurs against HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #129

Funny thing that BobbyBoring Aug 2013 #188

Obama is not bush there will be no going in with guns blazing to give them what they deserve. Autumn Aug 2013 #128

Peace Purists nil desperandum Aug 2013 #130

OK, but what about our free trade with China, a supporter of Syria??? reformist2 Aug 2013 #132

Funny how posters align on this issue bobduca Aug 2013 #133

Assad won't be punished at all. Dash87 Aug 2013 #134

The US didn't join WWII to stop The Holocaust. Dash87 Aug 2013 #135

Actually, most European governments did know about the camps. PDJane Aug 2013 #171

"You peace purists". What site am I on, anyway? Marr Aug 2013 #136

That one is not right wing, its pro-just-war and sensible and pragmatic and centrist! bobduca Aug 2013 #143

Ummmmmmmmmmmm Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2013 #137

137 replies, zero recs. woo me with science Aug 2013 #138

this inelegant OP seems to have crossed the line even for the NSA/WAR/DLC backers. bobduca Aug 2013 #142

Can you back up your accusation with a witness? Coyotl Aug 2013 #140

Will Colin be bringing some clip art? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #144

RAWR!!!!! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #145

If you think the concentration camps were any part of why we joined the Allies, you are Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #146

+1 The OP fails at cracking a book and reading some history Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #154

Why not work with the Arab League to help evacuate civilians first? Efilroft Sul Aug 2013 #147

people have been fleeing to Jordan, Iraq, etc. for many months now Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #155

Try to keep up, over a year nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #156

Are you going to be behind the troops? How far behind? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #151

He's in the 101st Keyboard Brigade. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #160

Reminds me of a great sign I saw at an anti-war (Iraq) protest HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #169

IMO Mr Dixon Aug 2013 #159

Larry Bolton said pretty much the same thing on Fox yesterday Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #161

Heard your same bullshit all before. Before Vietnam, before Iraq. It's like deja vu all over again. Zorra Aug 2013 #162

Does the rest of the world DESERVE World War III? KamaAina Aug 2013 #163

This is flamebait. DCBob Aug 2013 #164

Personally, I think we need roads, schools, police officers, Fawke Em Aug 2013 #165

Assad has to go? Enrique Aug 2013 #167

Oh Sweet Jesus Enrique.... sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #186

America would be stupid to fall for this rhetoric marions ghost Aug 2013 #168

I think it's time for you and your pals to get out of the fucking tent. Marr Aug 2013 #170

Zero Recs. LOL DesMoinesDem Aug 2013 #172

I'll wear the banner of "peace purist" with PRIDE, thank you very much. myrna minx Aug 2013 #173

K&R closeupready Aug 2013 #175

So since you are not a 'peace purist' do you prefer 'War Monger' or 'War Pimp' ? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #178

Actually, Republicans at the time were isolationists and opposed "Roosevelt's War" Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #179

Godwin's Law is Fail. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #181

One rec from DU... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #189

Send us updates from the front lines, OK? (nt) Paladin Aug 2013 #190

It's a shitty deal, but... usmc03 Aug 2013 #195

Thank You for your service, bvar22 Aug 2013 #203

is this satire of over-the-top huffpuffery? nashville_brook Aug 2013 #196

Oh, thank you. I was viewing the post as another symptom of the truedelphi Sep 2013 #211

"peace purists?" AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #198

What exactly do you thinks a war with Syria will accomplish Live and Learn Aug 2013 #199

Thank you for this. AngryOldDem Aug 2013 #202

Those DAMNED PURISTS!!!! bvar22 Aug 2013 #204

I sincerely hope you don't think that the reason the US got into war with Germany was because of the raccoon Aug 2013 #206