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In reply to the discussion: Syria's Assad and regime DESERVE everything they're about to get from the U.S. And the West [View all]The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)110. Now, more on the UN in the Congo:
The United Nations Organization Stabilization Mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo or MONUSCO (until 2010 known as United Nations Mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo or MONUC, French: Mission de l'Organisation des Nations Unies en République démocratique du Congo), is a United Nations peacekeeping force in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) which was established by the United Nations Security Council in resolutions 1279 (1999) and 1291 (2000) of the United Nations Security Council to monitor the peace process of the Second Congo War, though much of its focus subsequently turned to the Ituri conflict, the Kivu conflict and the Dongo conflict.
The initial UN presence in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, before the passing of Resolution 1291, was a force of military observers to observe and report on the compliance on factions with the peace accords, a deployment authorised by the earlier Resolution 1258 (1999).[1]
Since 1999, about US$ 8.73 billion have been spent to fund the UN peacekeeping effort in DRC.[2] As of June 2010, the total strength of UN peacekeeping troops in DRC exceed 20,000.[2] More than thirty nations have contributed military and police personnel for peacekeeping effort,[2] with India being the single largest contributor.[3] In June 2011, it was reported that India is preparing to gradually scale back its military commitment to MONUSCO.[4]
The initial UN presence in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, before the passing of Resolution 1291, was a force of military observers to observe and report on the compliance on factions with the peace accords, a deployment authorised by the earlier Resolution 1258 (1999).[1]
Since 1999, about US$ 8.73 billion have been spent to fund the UN peacekeeping effort in DRC.[2] As of June 2010, the total strength of UN peacekeeping troops in DRC exceed 20,000.[2] More than thirty nations have contributed military and police personnel for peacekeeping effort,[2] with India being the single largest contributor.[3] In June 2011, it was reported that India is preparing to gradually scale back its military commitment to MONUSCO.[4]
Now the interesting part (that was from Wiki which put together many other sources):
The Security Council, condemning the continuing illicit traffic of weapons in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, decided this morning to extend and expand the arms embargo there and its related sanctions regime until 30 November 2010.
Established in 2003, the sanctions regime consists of an arms embargo against armed groups in the country that are not part of the Governments integrated army or police units, as well as a travel ban and assets freeze on those violating the embargo, as determined in resolutions 1493 (2003), 1596 (2005), 1698 (2006), 1771 (2007), 1807 (2008) and 1857 (2008).
Unanimously adopting resolution 1896 (2009) and acting under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, the Council also expanded the mandate of its subcommittee to include the promulgation of guidelines for listing and notifying sanctioned individuals, to hold regular consultations with concerned Member States to ensure the resolution's full implementation and to specify the necessary information States should provide to fulfil notification requirements.
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/sc9798.doc.htm
Established in 2003, the sanctions regime consists of an arms embargo against armed groups in the country that are not part of the Governments integrated army or police units, as well as a travel ban and assets freeze on those violating the embargo, as determined in resolutions 1493 (2003), 1596 (2005), 1698 (2006), 1771 (2007), 1807 (2008) and 1857 (2008).
Unanimously adopting resolution 1896 (2009) and acting under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, the Council also expanded the mandate of its subcommittee to include the promulgation of guidelines for listing and notifying sanctioned individuals, to hold regular consultations with concerned Member States to ensure the resolution's full implementation and to specify the necessary information States should provide to fulfil notification requirements.
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/sc9798.doc.htm
Note the word in bold.
We also have:
According to the organisation World Without Genocide, the violence has killed as many as 5.4 million people making it the world's bloodiest conflict since World War II.
--- Now, it did not start out with 5.4 million people dying. No one said "hey, let's kill millions of people!".
Since 1996, the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC; Congo) has been embroiled in violence that has killed as many as 5.4 million people. The conflict has been the worlds bloodiest since World War II. The First and Second Congo Wars, which sparked the violence, involved multiple foreign armies and investors from Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Angola, Namibia, Chad, Libya and Sudan, among others, and has been so devastating that it is sometimes called the African World War.
Fighting continues in the eastern parts of the country, destroying infrastructure, causing physical and psychological damage to civilians, and creating human rights violations on a mass scale. Rape is being used as a weapon of war, and large-scale plunder and murder are also occurring as part of efforts to displace people on resource-rich land.
Today, most of the fighting is taking place in North and South Kivu, on the DRC/Rwanda border. Some fighting is political, resulting from unrest caused by Hutu refugees from the Rwandan genocide now living in DRC, while other fighting results from an international demand for natural resources. DRC has large quantities of gold, copper, diamonds, and coltan (a mineral used in cell phones), which many parties desire to control for monetary reasons. However, money from the sales of these resources has not reached average citizens. Currently the education, healthcare, legal, and road systems are in shambles.
http://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/congo
So what has the response been?
The UNs current mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo, called MONUC, is entering its thirteenth year. MONUC is the UNs largest and longest-lasting mission to date.
It is mandated to protect civilians and also help in the reconstruction of the country. With 18,000 people, MONUC is spread thinly across northeastern Congo and is largely unable to halt attacks. Rebels continue to kill and plunder natural resources with impunity. Some claim the rebels are supported by an international crime network stretching through Africa to Western Europe and North America.
The international communitys support for political and diplomatic efforts to end the war has been relatively consistent, but no effective steps have been taken to abide by repeated pledges to demand accountability for the war crimes and crimes against humanity that are routinely committed in Congo. United Nations Security Council and the U.N. Secretary-General have frequently denounced human rights abuses and the humanitarian disaster that the war unleashed on the local population. But they have shown little will to tackle the responsibility of occupying powers for the atrocities taking place in areas under their control, areas where the worst violence in the country took place.
On March 14, 2012, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued a guilty verdict against Thomas Lubanga Dyilo on charges of rape, murder, and the use of child soldiers, the first verdict for the ICC.
It is mandated to protect civilians and also help in the reconstruction of the country. With 18,000 people, MONUC is spread thinly across northeastern Congo and is largely unable to halt attacks. Rebels continue to kill and plunder natural resources with impunity. Some claim the rebels are supported by an international crime network stretching through Africa to Western Europe and North America.
The international communitys support for political and diplomatic efforts to end the war has been relatively consistent, but no effective steps have been taken to abide by repeated pledges to demand accountability for the war crimes and crimes against humanity that are routinely committed in Congo. United Nations Security Council and the U.N. Secretary-General have frequently denounced human rights abuses and the humanitarian disaster that the war unleashed on the local population. But they have shown little will to tackle the responsibility of occupying powers for the atrocities taking place in areas under their control, areas where the worst violence in the country took place.
On March 14, 2012, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued a guilty verdict against Thomas Lubanga Dyilo on charges of rape, murder, and the use of child soldiers, the first verdict for the ICC.
So if we leave Syria, with it's chemical weapons and instability internally, to JUST the UN and china/russia don't go along nothing will be done.
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Syria's Assad and regime DESERVE everything they're about to get from the U.S. And the West [View all]
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
OP
That will be determined in due course, but I am certain rebels don't have access to his chemical
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#3
The opposition has also used chemical weapons. And, they do have access to the crude rockets
leveymg
Aug 2013
#14
The weight of evidence points in the other direction, toward a particularly terrible provocation
leveymg
Aug 2013
#10
In the absence of proof of who did it, and since it was obviously not in the interest of Assad to do
leveymg
Aug 2013
#26
Oh please. You and the OP are going to compare an internal civil war inside Syria with the
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#46
Have you studied the Holocaust or history of Nazi Germany much? If so, you'd understand
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#57
Systematic killing is systematic killing. Prior to this being a civil war, protesters were being
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#60
You're being disingenuous in the extreme about your point in bringing up the Holocaust. This is
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#72
You said it was "systematic killing". Which facility were the victims shipped to...
MNBrewer
Aug 2013
#191
Yes, I have. Which is why we should pay attention here. Who does Syria hate?
The Straight Story
Aug 2013
#63
Oh, for Christ's sake, you're arguing that b/c Assad allegedly used CBW on his own people, nothing
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#68
Not a big fan of Occam's Razor, are you? You just showed me everything I need to know
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#74
And I'm attempting to reason with someone who practices neo-McCarthyism and
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#75
Report: North Korea attempted to export gas masks to Syria; shipment was seized in Turkey
The Straight Story
Aug 2013
#82
As mentioned before: chemical attack, not to mention China and Russia
The Straight Story
Aug 2013
#109
Well, let's see. When the U.S. picks sides in other nation's civil wars, we seem
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#127
What exactly are they about to get? And how many Syrians will get it along with Assad and regime?
rug
Aug 2013
#9
I guess he means the Christians and the Alawites are going to get the ass kicking of their life
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#40
I hope they are ready, because that's who is really going to suffer when this ends badly
MNBrewer
Aug 2013
#192
Best response of this thread. OP is a chickenhawk, sounds like, and badly in need of
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#21
Godwin's Law right in the OP. Whoo-hoo! Wonder what all those dead and wounded Syrian women
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#17
The freed slaves of the American Civil War might take issue with your sentiments, as might those
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#33
War and violence does not happen to the "regime." It happens to the people. (nt)
enough
Aug 2013
#24
Is israel going to be helping out with this 'DESERVE everything they're about to get' operation?
Purveyor
Aug 2013
#32
Bingo! Cui bono? I ask. Why does this remind me of Iraqi soldiers ripping Kuwaiti babies from
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#37
Oh, don't listen to these humanitarian purists, who think those rights belong to them exclusively
railsback
Aug 2013
#34
Yeah, you know, all those saying we shouldn't get involved. Let the death continue
railsback
Aug 2013
#52
That would seem to be the 'I got my humanitarian rights, the rest can go to Hell' meme
railsback
Aug 2013
#70
That comes from our selective outrage at atrocities. Murder by chemical weapons BAD!
neverforget
Aug 2013
#77
Why do you support Al Qaida? You're either with Assad or you're with Al Qaida - nt
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#79
Is U.S. Preparing invasion force? No. Using 9/11 and al queda as pretext? No.
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#54
A) I found no articles on their "Syria" position and B) Obama doesn't report to them and
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#69
And C, Syria has been in the list of targets for regime change since 1998
nadinbrzezinski
Aug 2013
#71
Maybe we need leaders who have the "luxury" to stay out of other peoples civil wars.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2013
#56
The question isn't whether the victims are false, but whether the "flag" is false
MNBrewer
Aug 2013
#205
And if Obama doesn't bomb you'll be calling him a holocaust appeaser, of course.
cthulu2016
Aug 2013
#92
what a mindbogglingly ridiculous post. Seriously, you sound like you're about 14. Are you?
bowens43
Aug 2013
#111
The OP is only interested in making neo-McCarthyite chickenshit slurs against
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#129
Obama is not bush there will be no going in with guns blazing to give them what they deserve.
Autumn
Aug 2013
#128
That one is not right wing, its pro-just-war and sensible and pragmatic and centrist!
bobduca
Aug 2013
#143
this inelegant OP seems to have crossed the line even for the NSA/WAR/DLC backers.
bobduca
Aug 2013
#142
If you think the concentration camps were any part of why we joined the Allies, you are
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#146
Heard your same bullshit all before. Before Vietnam, before Iraq. It's like deja vu all over again.
Zorra
Aug 2013
#162
So since you are not a 'peace purist' do you prefer 'War Monger' or 'War Pimp' ?
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#178
Actually, Republicans at the time were isolationists and opposed "Roosevelt's War"
Agnosticsherbet
Aug 2013
#179