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Civilization2

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28. the question is what constitutes a crime,. leaking the doings of our gov. seems like public service!

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:07 PM

Aug 2013

Should the government be able to hide things?

We pay for those things, and they are done in our name, we have every right to see, hear, and know about all the actions taken by our government through the spending of taxes.

We should not need leakers to keep us informed of these issues,. sadly the corporate-military state grows more and more secretive.

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Obama doubles-down w/NYTs James Risen: rat on your sources or 'Go straight to jail. Do not pass go' [View all] 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 OP

What the heck is wrong with this admin continually going after reporters? I can't remember ever... Little Star Aug 2013 #1

We got bait and switched. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #2

My worst fear of a Pres. Rmoney tblue Aug 2013 #13

What Zappa said 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #3

The curtains are certainly being pulled back at an alarming rate. Little Star Aug 2013 #4

Another story used to confuse people who don't understand the issues: treestar Aug 2013 #5

Settled law, reporters have no right to conceal crimes Progressive dog Aug 2013 #6

But that won't stop some DUers from misrepresenting the issue... SidDithers Aug 2013 #11

That's not the issue. Octafish Aug 2013 #47

I guess if it is "settled" we can't argue with that,. . LOL Civilization2 Aug 2013 #21

settled law treestar Aug 2013 #24

the question is what constitutes a crime,. leaking the doings of our gov. seems like public service! Civilization2 Aug 2013 #28

It may seem like a public service, but it is a crime according to treestar Aug 2013 #31

Like the banksters, or the corporate pillagers,. or the warmonger politicos that kill millions? Civilization2 Aug 2013 #36

You mean you don't find our criminal justice system adequate? treestar Aug 2013 #40

Funny you should think it is settled law. The SC ruled, in the Ellsberg case that the NYT sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #44

Settled law is law that has been decided treestar Aug 2013 #45

Like Affirmative Action? Octafish Aug 2013 #49

Yes, those were laws, and they've been followed treestar Aug 2013 #50

So, ''settled law'' is settled when you say it is? Octafish Aug 2013 #51

It's settled when the courts have followed it treestar Aug 2013 #52

Our elected government deemed it so, Progressive dog Aug 2013 #62

Crimes on Wall Street have been concealed for decades. mick063 Aug 2013 #34

Two wrongs don't make a right. Progressive dog Aug 2013 #61

The DOJ is one big fail mick063 Aug 2013 #64

That prosecutors even NEED Risen's testimony at all, is highly questionable. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #7

Witnesses don't get to determine the importance of their own testimony. msanthrope Aug 2013 #14

can the doj get anything right? questionseverything Aug 2013 #29

not exactly the same rights questionseverything Aug 2013 #30

the important thing is to get Cha Aug 2013 #8

The administration has no credibility left, woo me with science Aug 2013 #18

So the court opinion is talking points? treestar Aug 2013 #25

People conveniently forget this part. Whisp Aug 2013 #23

I thought secrets were bad and info wanted to be free? Recursion Aug 2013 #9

Journalism 101 -> protecting confidentiality of sources 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #10

Yeah, and journalists have gone to jail for that Recursion Aug 2013 #12

It is kind of funny though that treestar Aug 2013 #26

Reporters acting like they "are above the law" 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #35

This is not a matter of free speech treestar Aug 2013 #41

Because no where in MY copy of the US Constitution does it state that Banksters are protected 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #42

The Constitution applies to everyone treestar Aug 2013 #46

Congress shall make no law "abridging the freedom of speech, or of THE PRESS" 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #53

The Risen case is about something different treestar Aug 2013 #57

"...without a legitimate need of law enforcement" <-- the operative phrase 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #58

Seriously? Brewinblue Aug 2013 #16

It's this administration that should be jailed. K&R :-| n/t DeSwiss Aug 2013 #15

...and the last one as well. It seems to be a trend. n/t xocet Aug 2013 #22

Indeed. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #37

Obama promised "Transparency" when he was campaigning, but Hubert Flottz Aug 2013 #17

You did not think he meant that classified information could be leaked whenever? treestar Aug 2013 #32

President Bush is a thug. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #19

The United States of America is now a surveillance state woo me with science Aug 2013 #20

That really does sum up our sorry-ass situation pretty well. eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #43

So all you outraged people want Iran to have nukes? DevonRex Aug 2013 #27

Honestly treestar Aug 2013 #33

I have decided what I finally said in my post. IMO it is the only logical DevonRex Aug 2013 #39

Bet the same people defending this now rightfully would have torn Bush a new forestpath Aug 2013 #38

That is painfully clear isn't it? 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #54

.... forestpath Aug 2013 #55

Ahh..I see. nice one. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #56

Question … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #48

Since when does the first amendment apply to Russia, China or Israel? LiberalAndProud Aug 2013 #59

I would have thought ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #63

Obama's defenders can't see the irony alarimer Aug 2013 #60

If the White House cannot imprison journalists how can we call ourselves free?! Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #65