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Electronic Frontier Foundation to award Greenwald for "clear and credible news and analysis" [View all] David Krout Aug 2013 OP

Yes - EFF Is Very Credible cantbeserious Aug 2013 #1

Unfortunately their award recipient is not credible in the least. tridim Aug 2013 #2

Your Opinion - We Will Have To Agree To Disagree cantbeserious Aug 2013 #4

Can you point to one incidence where GG was shown to have reported wrongly or "lied"? Civilization2 Aug 2013 #9

He is running a scam. So, everything. tridim Aug 2013 #13

Again, can you point to ANYTHING he has misreported ? OR just more argumentum ad hominem,. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #16

He has misreported EVERYTHING. tridim Aug 2013 #24

So you got nothing then? Civilization2 Aug 2013 #29

Psst, just one thing, you don't have to go into EVERYTHING, just give us one thing he sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #94

Start here leftynyc Aug 2013 #55

come on G_j Aug 2013 #23

Proof that the WHOLE THING is a scam? tridim Aug 2013 #25

So you got no evidence nor an example of mendacity, just some crack pot conspiracy theory to foist. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #28

Are you putting us on? Quantess Aug 2013 #43

"it just is" G_j Aug 2013 #74

Some might say the same thing about Nobel Peace Prize recipients MNBrewer Aug 2013 #34

... SidDithers Aug 2013 #3

Why should anyone on this site care? .... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #5

Well, on Democratic Undergound we like the Electronic Frontier Foundation for reasons including: Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #6

That wasn't my question ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #8

Greenwald advocates policies supported by most Democrats in DU David Krout Aug 2013 #11

GG advocates issues supported by Rand/Ron Fucking Paul. nt tridim Aug 2013 #14

I support some of those issues as well! MNBrewer Aug 2013 #39

GG supports all of them, and he supports the Pauls. tridim Aug 2013 #44

I believe you just stated some untruths MNBrewer Aug 2013 #48

The truth hurts sometimes. tridim Aug 2013 #58

UNtruths MNBrewer Aug 2013 #84

So ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #17

I don't get the KKK analogy David Krout Aug 2013 #20

Amazing how fast the discussion degenerates. raindaddy Aug 2013 #54

Oh, no that's where the Thrid Way 'say anything centrists' are headed, the Democratic Party is Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #64

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #91

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #90

Because I agree with something someone does ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #88

Short memory? Your question was "Why should anyone on this site care?" Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #18

that was his original question, the conversation changed after that. That should have been obvious. stevenleser Aug 2013 #40

Again, his question was simple and clear 'why should anyone on DU care about this'? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #66

And the discussion changed after that. But you already knew that. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #68

No, the OP sets the subject, not a nattering crew making crazed analogies and asking questions they Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #75

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #87

Disappointing. However the other two recipients seem worthy. Robb Aug 2013 #7

As a long time and actual supporter of their work, I think this award is fitting well given. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #15

Oh, please. I'm on record here supporting EFF. Robb Aug 2013 #32

Ah a personal attack devoid of any other content. Good stuff you got there, no facts but a lecture Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #36

Again, you are misinterpreting someone's comments. Robb's comments were obvious. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #38

Robb's comments WERE obvious. Obviously lacking in substance MNBrewer Aug 2013 #41

No smear. He disagreed with EFFs opinion in one situation.Characterizing that as "a smear" is a joke stevenleser Aug 2013 #45

Carnival MNBrewer Aug 2013 #50

After mentioning the two other seem worthy. You keep forgetting that part. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #70

Sorry, no one on DU on any side of anything turns their thinking over to some group's say so. stevenleser Aug 2013 #10

Steve, a 'jounalist' posting on DU slamming the EFF is about as ironic and vapid as it gets. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #21

As usual, you invent things that other people said instead of addressing their actual comments. stevenleser Aug 2013 #26

They are the group that is the subject of the OP, so when you said 'some group' did you mean Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #30

It should be obvious. It's generic. No one here turns their thinking over to any group. stevenleser Aug 2013 #31

So it was just a random comment unconnected to the discussion at hand? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #33

It's obvious. If you don't see it, that's your problem. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #37

No it is not obvious. It is the opposite of obvious. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #56

It's obvious. I mentioned Nobel peace prize. Does EFF offer that? nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #59

The Nobel was a seconday exaple you were offering. You were comparing the reaction to the Nobel Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #71

Which makes it obvious it was a more general comment I was making. See how that works? stevenleser Aug 2013 #73

A journalist? I thought he was Fox's token neoliberal talking head? Dragonfli Aug 2013 #92

EFF does good work. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #12

The naysayers are clearly responding to the goring of one of their scared cows,. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #19

Greenwald's thinking and analysis has already been shown to be suspect throughout Bush's 1st term stevenleser Aug 2013 #35

So did Andrew Sullivan, but now that he's become an Obama cheerleader... MNBrewer Aug 2013 #42

Nope, just as with any other person or group, each instance is evaluated on its merits. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #46

A list of Democratic Senators who voted Yes on the Iraq War Resolution. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #47

IWR was before the UN Weapons inspector reports were written. Greenwald continued stevenleser Aug 2013 #49

Not that I think you're lying, but MNBrewer Aug 2013 #52

All in my article here... stevenleser Aug 2013 #57

Ugh, enough with the self promotion MNBrewer Aug 2013 #62

Ugh the links are there. I'm not going to retype them for you. stevenleser Aug 2013 #69

Exactly! Smearmaster Greenwald's smear campaign against George W. Bush Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #53

So trust is the issue, not the facts of the reporting, the "analysis"? Really? Civilization2 Aug 2013 #60

With thousands of journalists and pundits around, I don't need to read someone who trusted Bush for stevenleser Aug 2013 #67

But you supported Hagel, a Yes vote on Iraq and a Republican for Sec of Defense Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #76

1st, no, I did not support 'Yes' on IWR. Second, no, you are conflating trusting someone's analysis stevenleser Aug 2013 #77

He has never once said he trusted Bush for 4 years. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #89

Lol at the rage this has inspired. nt Union Scribe Aug 2013 #22

We're still missing a few of the usual suspects hootinholler Aug 2013 #80

I have noticed a pattern - One of the methods of this PR tag team has lately been to hold back a few Dragonfli Aug 2013 #85

Looks like EFF is under the bus with all the cool kids! n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #27

So predictable Hydra Aug 2013 #65

These EFF people.... anyone know if they have boxes in their garage???? reformist2 Aug 2013 #51

I have it on good authority that several have been linked to QC Aug 2013 #61

Oh noes!!! reformist2 Aug 2013 #63

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #72

It is not a 'blow' to anyone with objective viewpoints on this or any other matter. randome Aug 2013 #78

Smearmaster Greenwald's smear campaign against George W. Bush Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #79

Lol @ this thread with my ignore list bobduca Aug 2013 #81

I was under the impression the 50-cent brigade was being run out of Booz-Allen. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #83

Watching the NSAbots flail in this thread is comedy gold! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #82

kick QC Aug 2013 #86

Wow, that's quite an honor for a journalist. And definitely validation of his work which he sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #93