Oh shit! It's not just Kerry, Biden's a liar too! And Obama's a war-monger! And ...

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60. When was this?

I started reading DU in 2005 and internet slapfights and poorly executed trolling have existed since at least that time. There was plenty of outrage, over issues ranging from people mocking the Catholic Church after JP2 died, the war in Iraq, the attempt privatization of Social Security, the election count in Ohio, the surveillance state, and a host of other issues that you could almost transplant whole from then to now unchanged. People attacked each other for being too pure or being too unrealistic on how to win elections. The Blue Dogs were help up to be the model of how to win in the south and were reviled for being enablers of the right (funny, that is one issue that actually got decided). Al Gore was lionized, Nader demonized, Clinton mostly cheered, Hillary judged, Obama noticed, etc. Some of that has changed, but honestly, the issues are more or less the same and so is the tone. There are still internet warriors claiming to know everything about electoral politics, just as there are people dedicated to attacking the status quo.

Nothing has changed. DU is more or less the same and will likely remain the same for as long as it stays online.