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karynnj

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95. I've seen threads that would fit in that space

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 11:46 PM

Aug 2013

Something is strange when in addition to disagreeing on Syria (where there are no good choices), but there are people calling Obama a conservative and center right, and every administration person I can think of is attacked and their motives questions - but Chelsea Manning and Ed Snowden are heroes and did absolutely nothing wrong. (This goes beyond valuing their whistleblowing to accepting ANYTHING they say -- even praising Russia as a bastion of human rights. )

On DU2, there were times that GD got this way -- but one could always stay in GD-P. The stated reasons for the groups were often ignored and two very different groups lived in each. I have really wished this divide existed on DU3.

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Oh shit! It's not just Kerry, Biden's a liar too! And Obama's a war-monger! And ... [View all] 11 Bravo Aug 2013 OP

you noticed the disgruntled former dems and third party types took over as well, eh? dionysus Aug 2013 #1

Current Dem, and I'm only gruntle challanged. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #80

Obama is not a warmonger or a liar but that doesn't diminish the horror of this mistake. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #2

+1. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #4

+1 I want the talk to be about the ACA Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #13

The NSA statement was not true. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #70

and it seems we summer-hazz Aug 2013 #79

+1 Scuba Aug 2013 #112

Our side aren't warmongers, they just ... dawg Aug 2013 #75

Yeah, but they are "real" Democrats. Liberal Veteran Aug 2013 #3

Oh, boy quinnox Aug 2013 #5

Exactly the point I was trying to make in another post... Rosco T. Aug 2013 #6

You go to war with the Democrats you have leftstreet Aug 2013 #7

No ....technically some just want to turn it into AnarchistUnderground! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #10

I think that word does not mean what you think it means leftstreet Aug 2013 #11

I think I know exactly what it means...thank you very much! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #12

+ 1 Just Saying Aug 2013 #51

Anarchist Brewinblue Aug 2013 #15

I know what all three mean thank you very much. VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #18

And what does the Underground part mean to you? zeemike Aug 2013 #58

And this site didn't begin under a Democratic President did it? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #62

Well just like the French not all Democrats went underground. zeemike Aug 2013 #69

No False analogy.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #103

Just stop, please. Dawgs Aug 2013 #122

Yep. And 'communist' is so yesterday! leftstreet Aug 2013 #20

compared to being called "statist"? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #56

So how, pray tell, does attacking a small country on the other side of the world HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #115

"libertarian" means you believe in the rights of individuals arely staircase Aug 2013 #136

Well, that is one definition, I guess? Brewinblue Aug 2013 #138

It is Rand Paul's arely staircase Aug 2013 #141

I think that's the official Tea Party slogan Brewinblue Aug 2013 #142

maybe not official, but operative. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #143

I've seen threads that would fit in that space karynnj Aug 2013 #95

Sure as hell not with the ones who just "play" Dems on DU. DevonRex Aug 2013 #99

You mean the "hate America first" crowd ? G_j Aug 2013 #131

I often wonder Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #8

+1 JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #52

No, they just boxed themselves in with their red line rhetoric cali Aug 2013 #9

Rookie mistake. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #27

damned if he dont Abukhatar Aug 2013 #59

So unbox and wait for the UN inspectors to do their job emsimon33 Aug 2013 #130

You do realize that you are both wrong and outnumbered 10-1 or 20-1 on this issue here? leveymg Aug 2013 #14

Are you kidding me? babylonsister Aug 2013 #17

+1 politicasista Aug 2013 #37

Yea come on people...war is all about lightness and humor Supersedeas Aug 2013 #129

Nah, I've been here for 12 years (as a contributing member), and prevailing opinions ... 11 Bravo Aug 2013 #21

or many of us are just tired of the constant battle and so.... nt seabeyond Aug 2013 #30

SCHEDULING 11 BRAVO FOR ASS KICKING Skittles Aug 2013 #32

And all of 300 something on DU3. Rex Aug 2013 #64

well OK I will move him to the back of the line Skittles Aug 2013 #86

Good idea Rex Aug 2013 #102

Eggzacaly! Puglover Aug 2013 #116

Why the let META threads that bash DU and DUers stand I will never know. Rex Aug 2013 #123

That was rather bullying in tone treestar Aug 2013 #71

Hahaha! babylonsister Aug 2013 #16

He has a gift! K & R. freshwest Aug 2013 #93

Hear Hear, Sir! The Magistrate Aug 2013 #19

That post is going on your JoePhilly Aug 2013 #22

Now, now. Thats a little over the top. bvar22 Aug 2013 #23

When you are more concerned about what is said about the party than Autumn Aug 2013 #29

Exactly! obxhead Aug 2013 #76

Yup. Puglover Aug 2013 #117

+10000000. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #89

Well said! nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #98

Yup, they pretty much are. bigwillq Aug 2013 #24

Oh my God!!! Lets all leave. Autumn Aug 2013 #25

"By their works sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #26

Matthew 26:52 Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #31

Amen sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #33

Jesus was the Prince of Purist Peace.... Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #43

I'm on DU and I don't hate him. sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #50

Tax the Churches DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #126

Jesus would have had no objection sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #133

I am not worried about Jesus DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #134

I understand, but sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #135

Anyone else remember the Biden Iraq WMD hearings? Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #28

I'm less bothered about killing Assad than I am about TPP mick063 Aug 2013 #34

We are not disidoro01 Aug 2013 #38

Last I looked mick063 Aug 2013 #45

sure we can disidoro01 Aug 2013 #47

I'm pissed that this stupid Syrian shit has stopped all momentum against the surveillance state. mick063 Aug 2013 #53

Biden also claims pot is a gateway drug.. Upton Aug 2013 #35

and sponsored the 'Rave Act'. nt G_j Aug 2013 #132

If you actually think that there is iandhr Aug 2013 #36

SNAP!! babylonsister Aug 2013 #41

When was this? MFrohike Aug 2013 #60

The word you should be concentrating on is civility. babylonsister Aug 2013 #65

Not really MFrohike Aug 2013 #67

There is less difference disidoro01 Aug 2013 #42

A small, but loud minority here are beginning to sound like freepers quakerboy Aug 2013 #101

It's really, really disturbing. Hekate Aug 2013 #106

Come on people colbertforpresident Aug 2013 #39

That would be rethugs. Look up 'big tent'. nt babylonsister Aug 2013 #44

Perfect post about the state of DU lately!! Pisces Aug 2013 #40

+1 n/t politicasista Aug 2013 #57

Anyone remember Haitian Man Tits and Seventhson? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #46

I don't know that I've ever despised anyone as much as Seventhson.... Rowdyboy Aug 2013 #91

So you're for this mess? WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #48

No one is really FOR it, Will. But those claiming that 8yrs PREVENTING war blm Aug 2013 #55

Exactly. Thanks, blm, for saying... YvonneCa Aug 2013 #73

You are wonderful as always - thanks for fighting this karynnj Aug 2013 #96

Thanks blm. Hekate Aug 2013 #105

Great post. If anyone has credibility here, it would be Kerry. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #121

Hell no! 11 Bravo Aug 2013 #119

(((hug))) WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #125

Right back at you, big guy! 11 Bravo Aug 2013 #140

You and Manny need to get together some time. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #49

Can someone tell me who I am? brooklynite Aug 2013 #54

.... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #61

Quick! Bury your head in the sand and all will be better. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #63

+1 forestpath Aug 2013 #66

Great post jessie04 Aug 2013 #68

awful kardonb Aug 2013 #72

Its a moral thing dem in texas Aug 2013 #74

There are days when this place feels like Crazy Libertarian Underground! nt MADem Aug 2013 #77

Leave the Crazy off. You'll offend someone and get your post hidden. *wink* freshwest Aug 2013 #94

In order for them to be offended, though, they'd have to make the leap MADem Aug 2013 #100

Wait for it... Hekate Aug 2013 #107

Heh, heh...nt MADem Aug 2013 #113

I agree! Glad we have that ironed out. freshwest Aug 2013 #111

Awwww geez.... MADem Aug 2013 #114

ya know Phlem Aug 2013 #78

HOW are they "lying"? George II Aug 2013 #81

Yes, the group we have right now is awful. woo me with science Aug 2013 #82

You know, Democrats faced this in the 60s too. David__77 Aug 2013 #83

Yeah, that kind of stuff is over the top. I vehemently disagree with us going to war in Syria stevenleser Aug 2013 #84

The Occupy Party guss Aug 2013 #85

Be very careful what you write here mick063 Aug 2013 #88

Why does the Left have to leave the party? Brewinblue Aug 2013 #108

Kick and Rec! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #87

keep defending the fuck ups by our so called leaders.... bowens43 Aug 2013 #90

Well, that's a start. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #92

I am guessing you will support our mindless killing in Syria as we did in Iraq. To you it's rhett o rick Aug 2013 #97

LOL.. Bravo 11 Bravo! Ignorant Cheap Pot Shots Cha Aug 2013 #104

They're all liars, doncha know? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #109

Party narcissism, pretending persecution complex... JackRiddler Aug 2013 #110

And some people are fucking idiots. nt LWolf Aug 2013 #118

lol. grantcart Aug 2013 #120

Dem leaders ARE "fucking awful" - and still the lesser of evils. polichick Aug 2013 #124

Nailed it... SidDithers Aug 2013 #127

Can we start a thread where we all insult each other, but then we all agree to be Democrats again :) DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #128

Back in the day - Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2013 #137

I asked three days ago, no response. HOW are Kerry and Biden lying? George II Aug 2013 #139