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Octafish

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19. JFK said, ''No'' to those wanting war at least four times.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 08:35 AM
Aug 2013

Even though they knew their invasion plans were compromised, the CIA and Pentagon tried to force Kennedy to make war over the Bay of Pigs.

While an attack on Soviet missile bases in Cuba and on ships at sea would escalate to nuclear war, the Pentagon and most of the Cabinet tried to force Kennedy to make war, nuclear if necessary -- the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The Pentagon and the Hawks in Congress and his Cabinet recommended war in Vietnam and southeast Asia to stop the spread of Communism, Kennedy sent volunteers -- which he ordered out by the end of 1964 -- but said he would never commit U.S. draftees to fight in another country's civil war, Vietnam.

Most troublesome to me, seeing how the Hawks lied America into invading Iraq twice in the last 22 years, DCI Allen Dulles and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Lyman Lemnitzer counseled Kennedy to order an all-out nuclear attack on the Soviet Union in Fall of 1963 -- the optimal time for a successful pre-emptive war.

Two Bullets [View all] Octafish Aug 2013 OP
The type of the pacts which drew all of Europe into war don't really exist today... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #1
What of the mutual defense pact with Iran? Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #2
"We will see you on the Plains of Megiddo. Snarl. Hate. Snarl." - Megiddites (R - GlobalStyle) Berlum Aug 2013 #18
Well, Lovey and I and some of the ''In Crowd'' will be out at sea, you might say. Octafish Aug 2013 #20
All aboard for a cruise on The Radioactive Sea (Fukushima Style) Berlum Aug 2013 #23
That's true, and we are not on Syria's frontier Kolesar Aug 2013 #3
Very true. Octafish Aug 2013 #5
And... There Are Russian Soldiers On The Ground In Syria... And Iran Has Threatend Isreal... And... WillyT Aug 2013 #11
And if worse comes to worse, there is no JFK to handle a missile crisis. truedelphi Aug 2013 #13
JFK said, ''No'' to those wanting war at least four times. Octafish Aug 2013 #19
War is Welfare for Warmongers Octafish Aug 2013 #17
And, they all believed it would be a short, inexpensive, war. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #4
One thing led to another. Octafish Aug 2013 #7
I FOR ONE BELIEVE THE BANKERS AND THE MINISTERS ALL KNEW IT WOULD GO ON AND ON. truedelphi Aug 2013 #9
Yes, some people would probably like to see WWIII leftstreet Aug 2013 #6
Anyone seen Bandar Bush, lately? Octafish Aug 2013 #8
Rec AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #10
Robert Scheer goes back to the old Ramparts Magazine MinM Aug 2013 #21
For telling the truth about Bush and Iraq, Robert Scheer lost his LA Times gig to Jonah Goldberg. Octafish Aug 2013 #24
Bullet 3. In Dallas. 1963. trof Aug 2013 #12
Money would not trump peace. Octafish Aug 2013 #14
Knew it! greytdemocrat Aug 2013 #15
Hiya, greytdemocrat! It's multi-generational warmongering... Octafish Aug 2013 #16
Almost forgot to say... Octafish Aug 2013 #22
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